Yemeni child bride dies after internal bleeding on marriage night

[fallingblood]

when it comes to islam it is 100% religious practice.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2013-06-22/thiruvananthapuram/40133737_1_age-limit-civic-bodies-marriages

So since a Muslim does something, it must be an Islamic practice? Do you of see the flaw in making such an overly generalized statement based on the actions of a political group in one area? How do they possibly signify what is and what is not a religious practice? There is no logic there.

 

[fallingblood]

Muslim communities belonging to all classes in india practice child marriage and their ratio is higher, statistics proves that, and they now wants to legalize it, Kerala govt modifies circular on Muslim marriage age - Times Of Indiahttp://articles.timesofindia.indiat...m/40133737_1_age-limit-civic-bodies-marriages

That article really doesn't support what you are saying. You may want to reread it before continuing to make insulting claims on a religion you obviously haven't studied.

 

[nameless]

So since a Muslim does something, it must be an Islamic practice? How do they possibly signify what is and what is not a religious practice? There is no logic there.

what i have said is based on statistics record, child marriage is very common in muslim-concentrated areas in india.

The video is not in english [youtube]eWD7qn5u5Ow[/youtube]
Child marriage in malappuram - Asianet news investigation - YouTube
According to the investigation, out of 4995 child marriages, 4249 is from muslim communities and 394 from hindu backward castes.

Do you of see the flaw in making such an overly generalized statement based on the actions of a political group in one area?

IUML(India Union Muslim League) is political group in one area? this was the same group which was behind india-pakistan partition, and now the major party for the muslim population in india.

 

[outhouse]

Child bride in Yemen dies of internal bleeding on wedding night: activist

Religion of peace. Religion of science. These are epithets we hear about Islam from Muslims all the time. And then we see stories like this, which make us realize that these aren't the case. And it's not just science which says something like this is just ignorant. Common sense does too.

So why do Muslims practice this? Do they not know that a child's body is not mature enough to handle this? Nor are their minds developed enough for this. It's just plain ignorant to think that a child is ready for marriage, and all the things that go along with it. Do Muslims not know that science has already determined that things like this are a bad idea?

I want to say "It doesn't matter what religion one is from" but I think that is wrong in this case.

Many people still live like primitive pigs and it should not be tolerated anywhere.

I wont say much, because it would just be hate talking. Religious reality sometimes gets the best of me.

 

[nameless]

That article really doesn't support what you are saying. You may want to reread it before continuing to make insulting claims on a religion you obviously haven't studied.

i just meant to say that the major muslim political party in india made an attempt to legalize child marriage in india.

 

[psychoslice]

I suppose we just have to except that there are cultures that are still in the stone age, and we will just have to wait till they catch up with civilized people of the world.

 

[outhouse]

I suppose we just have to except that there are cultures that are still in the stone age, and we will just have to wait till they catch up with civilized people of the world.

And if you really take a good hard look, people are still pretty primitive as a whole.

They tend to breed without thought or control despite resources keeping them in a cycle of poverty and despair, and its exactly these type of people that generally take these religious books as literal truths without the education to see beyond the mythology. People will always pervert the beauty of these text. Its why there are so many sect's in one religion that cannot get along.


What is not funny is global literacy rates, which is tied to education show a direct correlation to fundamentalism and terrorism, anyone else want to link that to religion?

 

[nash8]

Child bride in Yemen dies of internal bleeding on wedding night: activist

Religion of peace. Religion of science. These are epithets we hear about Islam from Muslims all the time. And then we see stories like this, which make us realize that these aren't the case. And it's not just science which says something like this is just ignorant. Common sense does too.

So why do Muslims practice this? Do they not know that a child's body is not mature enough to handle this? Nor are their minds developed enough for this. It's just plain ignorant to think that a child is ready for marriage, and all the things that go along with it. Do Muslims not know that science has already determined that things like this are a bad idea?

While I agree that this practice is absolutely vile, you do realize that you are saying that Islam is not a religion of peace nor science because of the actions of one disguisting man?

Do you not think this practice happens around the world in countries that have little to no Muslim population? You do not cite the fact the Yemen has a poverty rate of about 50%, and education is extremely limited, and that countries with higher poverty rates have a much higher rate of human rights violations. How often do you think this "Muslim" practice occur in the U.A.B.?

While I agree that this practice is absolutely vile, your accusation that this is somehow a result of the Islamic religion, and not the result of one man's disguisting personal choice is atrocious in my opinion.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Actually the legality of that choice and that their (presumably religious) community seems to feel it reasonable is what is concerning.

 

[nash8]

i just meant to say that the major muslim political party in india made an attempt to legalize child marriage in india.

And these pervsions of one group of people, represent the beliefs of an entire religion?

Can you cite me a verse within the Quran that unquestionably promotes child marriage?

And if you really take a good hard look, people are still pretty primitive as a whole.

They tend to breed without thought or control despite resources keeping them in a cycle of poverty and despair, and its exactly these type of people that generally take these religious books as literal truths without the education to see beyond the mythology. People will always pervert the beauty of these text. Its why there are so many sect's in one religion that cannot get along.

Well said sir.

What is not funny is global literacy rates, which is tied to education show a direct correlation to fundamentalism and terrorism, anyone else want to link that to religion?

How bout poverty rates to fundamentalism and terrorism? Whose more dangerous than an ignorant person? An ignorant, hungry person.

 

[outhouse]

How bout poverty rates to fundamentalism and terrorism? Whose more dangerous than an ignorant person? An ignorant, hungry person.

Yes.

And it doesn't hurt if your text is so ambiguous that it can be perverted to mean just about anything you want it too, to make yourself seem righteous and just while breaking ever moral law there is.


Ok that's enough ive vented way to much.

 

[nash8]

Yes.

And it doesn't hurt if your text is so ambiguous that it can be perverted to mean just about anything you want it too, to make yourself seem righteous and just while breaking ever moral law there is.


Ok that's enough ive vented way to much.

What religious text is not so ambiguous that it can't be perverted to mean anything you want it too lol?

 

[nameless]

And these pervsions of one group of people, represent the beliefs of an entire religion?

for the muslims who practice it, its something religious for them, they admits this, also people belonging to other religious faiths dont practice it much, so it is baseless to say child-marriage is always a cultural thing

Can you cite me a verse within the Quran that unquestionably promotes child marriage?

well, i no expert in islam, but i have seen number of videos in which islamic scholars and imams speaking in favor of child-marriage, moreover their prophet practiced it so beautifully, and all muslims admire him for that, so at least they are not against this practice i assume.

 

[Assad91]

well, i no expert in islam, but i have seen number of videos in youtube in which islamic scholars and imams speaking in favor of child-marriage, moreover their prophet practiced it so beautifully, and all muslims admire him for that, so at least they are not against this practice i assume.

Oh wow. Watching enough youtube videos makes one an expert?!

 

[nameless]

Oh wow. Watching enough youtube videos makes one an expert?!

i dont know.. will it?
i already stated that i am not an expert in islam.

 

[nash8]

for the muslims who practice it, its something religious for them, they admits this

I can say that I am a Christian and that slaying my enemies is religious for me according to the Bible. I.E. I can say I'm a member of any religion, and say that the religions supports this particular behavior. Do you blame me or the religion for my actions?

also people belonging to other religious faiths dont practice it much, so it is baseless to say child-marriage is always a cultural thing.

Child Marriage Facts and Figures | ICRW

Yeah the idea that child marriage has nothing to do with Socio-economic status and education level, and that no other religious faiths practice child marriage is TOTALLY BASELESS.

well, i no expert in islam, but i have seen number of videos in youtube in which islamic scholars and imams speaking in favor of child-marriage,

Again can you cite the verse where Islam promotes child marriage specifically? So do you blame the religion itself, or the (mis)interpretation of the religion by a person and/or people to be at blame?

moreover their prophet practiced it so beautifully,

Can you also cite the verse where the Mohammed engages in child marriage?

and all muslims admire him for that, so at least they are not against this practice i assume.

Considering that almost the entirety of your knowledge on Islam comes from "youtube", how do you deem yourself qualified to speak on what "all Muslims" admire?

 

[nash8]

i dont know.. will it?
i already stated that i am not a expert in islam.

Yet you make statements basically saying that the whole of them are a bunch of pedophiles?

:slap:

 

[farouk]

Peace to all.
I am an old man.Married my wife at a very young age.We have children,grand children and great grand children.I married my children(daughter and sons) also at an early age.My grand children were also married at an early age.We are all one happy big family.Now what is all this nonsence and fuss about getting married at an early age?
Can any intellectual person tell me what age is ripe for a male or female to get married?
Tks in advance.
Peace
Farouk

Peace
So far not a single member could give me direct answer to my question.So much for intellect.
I married my wife at the age of 10.I don't have any problem in my marriage.I come from a very wealthy family and so does my wife.It seems some members regard my marriage as immoral others regard me as an pedophile.What a sham.How ridiculous can you get?You are definately living in glass house.Its about time that you wake up.Get out of your glass homes and start breathing fresh air because it will do a whole lot of good to your brains.
The difficulty in answering my question makes it quite obvious that your agenda is nothing but throwing stones.If you born inside your tunnel vision then its about time that you learn to respect others that are in their own tunnel.My marriage to my wife is very successful and so is all my children.The divorce rate in my family is zero and there is no ways that i am going to change my way of life to another way of life that will never understand the meaning of the word morality.
Now stop your barbaric attacks on my marriage.
Peace
Farouk

 

[Treks]

At least your wife didn't die or become injured by your coupling with her at such a young age. Maybe her body was physically bigger than the the unfortunate 8 year old. I wonder if your wife had a clue what was actually going?

Do you not feel any compassion for children who should be living their childhood, playing with dolls (or toy cars), singing along to The Lion King, instead of having to please men in whatever way they so desire, whenever they desire, which will be their lot in life soon enough anyway?

I will never agree that this practice should be condoned and I don't live in a glass house, I just have a heart.

How do you feel about 40 year old woman having sex with 10 year old boy? Just out of curiosity.

 

[underthesun]

My marriage to my wife is very successful and so is all my children.The divorce rate in my family is zero and there is no ways that i am going to change my way of life to another way of life that will never understand the meaning of the word morality.​

To be fair, the divorce rate in your family being zero does not mean that everyone in your family is perfectly happily married. I obviously do not know your family; I am not trying to argue that they aren't happily married. They very well might be. I'm just saying, quoting a divorce rate doesn't really say much and shouldn't be used as evidence of success.​