you are racist!!

[groves200]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?
How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist? Surely if a black person stood in the street infront of a bunch of police and shouted "white trash, white people are useless" i very VERY very highly doubt he will be arrested yet a white person who does the same would be arrested, same applies to Muslims shouting out western hatred yet if a western person shouted out Muslim hated it's hate speach and your off to a prison cell! is this political incorrectness?

when talking about blacks and Muslims we are treated like we should be walking on egg shells around them.

 

[MD]

 

[Nietzsche]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?
How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist? Surely if a black person stood in the street infront of a bunch of police and shouted "white trash, white people are useless" i very VERY very highly doubt he will be arrested yet a white person who does the same would be arrested, same applies to Muslims shouting out western hatred yet if a western person shouted out Muslim hated it's hate speach and your off to a prison cell! is this political incorrectness?

when talking about blacks and Muslims we are treated like we should be walking on egg shells around them.

How much bleach do you have to buy to maintain that look? I mean, doesn't the soot when you "Light" the cross get in everything? I've always wondered.

 

[dust1n]

: popcorn :

 

[Father Heathen]

"Privilage" apparently justifies the double standard.

 

[HonestJoe]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?
How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?

I don't know yet. Are you black or white?

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist?

It isn't. Some people act as if it is but then some people act as if the exact opposite is too. Both groups of people are wrong (or fraudulent).

Surely if a black person stood in the street infront of a bunch of police and shouted "white trash, white people are useless" i very VERY very highly doubt he will be arrested yet a white person who does the same would be arrested, same applies to Muslims shouting out western hatred yet if a western person shouted out Muslim hated it's hate speach and your off to a prison cell! is this political incorrectness?

Are you sure of that because you've evidence that it's true or are you sure of it because it's the stereotype you've been taught? I've no doubt discrimination could play a role in such situations but if and how it does would vary massively depending on the time, place and circumstances.

when talking about blacks and Muslims we are treated like we should be walking on egg shells around them.

Are you sure? Couldn't it just be that you're expected to be no more or less respectful to those people are you would (should!) be to anyone else?

 

[dust1n]

"Privilage" apparently justifies the double standard.

To whom, exactly?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?
How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?

I've heard it quite abit from both groups.

Surely if a black person stood in the street infront of a bunch of police and shouted "white trash, white people are useless" i very VERY very highly doubt he will be arrested yet a white person who does the same would be arrested,

Actually, I doubt either one would be arrested. The police would most likely order the person, regardless of color, to stop doing what they are doing, move along, or whatever, but there is nothing that defines saying "black/white people are useless as a crime. As for Muslims, you are being willfully ignorant if you think there is anything that prevents people from treating them poorly - as a matter of fact, very recently, there was yet another attack on the Sihk community because some idiot confused them for Muslims.

 

[Quintessence]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?
How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?

Almost never, within memory. I can recall only one time within the past six years. Nobody in my social circles gives a damn about race. It's about as interesting and remarkable as a person's left toenail.

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist?

A stellar example of a loaded question... right up there with "have you stopped beating your wife yet?" To ask such a loaded question is an indication one is immersed in the wrong social circles, because it is not acceptable in proper company.

 

[Riverwolf]

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist?

It's not.

But one is just a minor annoyance.
The other is a continuation of systemic cultural oppression against a certain group of people for having greater amounts of melanin in their skin.

Short version: very few white people die from race-hate crimes, while lots of black people die from it.

The two aren't equivalent, because they exist within a wider cultural and historical context.

That's why the former doesn't elicit nearly the same amounts of attention or criticism that the latter invites. BTW, don't mistake negative criticism for jail time.

 

[George-ananda]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?

A few times when it was not justified by the facts. And I think it is true that whites are reticent to criticize that card usage for fear of being called the awful 'R' word.

 

[MARCELLO]

I am a white expat in east africa where majority is black and muslim. I sometimes hear them disliking of me because I am paid much more in their own country ,like i have my own driver,helper,a better house,etc. But most of the time(99 %) I feel I am very welcome here,people always keep smiling at me telling me that I am their guest and they are glad that I work hard for the improvement of their country. During ramadan I comfortably eat,drink and smoke in the public. Nobody harassed me.

On the other hand when 2 whites come together ,here, most of the time the conversation just turns to how blacks are lazy ,dirty and horrible creatures .

This is what happens here.

 

[psychoslice]

I'm white and proud of it, if someone isn't proud of their colour, then that's their problem,

 

[SomeRandom]

As someone of mixed "race" frankly neither side is free of racism and both are wrong.

 

[Paranoid Android]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?
How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist? Surely if a black person stood in the street infront of a bunch of police and shouted "white trash, white people are useless" i very VERY very highly doubt he will be arrested yet a white person who does the same would be arrested, same applies to Muslims shouting out western hatred yet if a western person shouted out Muslim hated it's hate speach and your off to a prison cell! is this political incorrectness?

when talking about blacks and Muslims we are treated like we should be walking on egg shells around them.

First of all, there are NO RACES. There is one race, the human race.
Second, there are ethnicities like British, Polish.
Third of all, I have reasons to suspect the notion of "political correctness".

 

[Lyndon]

If anyone's playing the race card, its the OP. IMHO

 

[Paranoid Android]

If anyone's playing the race card, its the OP. IMHO

Yup. I hate to say it, but yup.

 

[Laika]

Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist?

As a White man, I've only recently started to think about the subject of race (after watching the Boondocks). I've come to realise that that is a reflection of my white privallage that for me racism has been largely invisible in the course of my life and that I have believed that legal equality is the same as equal treatment. it isn't. Much to my surprise and disgust, I hold negative sterotypes of black people (black men especially) as violent and criminal without ever consciously being a racist. it's a hard thing to admit because you want to tell yourself you are not part of the problem and it jars with the idealised sense of self as being "just". But it is actually that sense of "justice" that is part of racism as it is the "white man's burden" to "right the wrongs" and make the world in his image. The notion of "white guilt" is a tricky one because it is unconscious, but the insecurity and sense of victimhood by white people comes from the sense that we are pure and unbellemished and without sin. all attacks upon us therefore are percieved to be unjustified, but really that is a form of narcassistic rage so long as we are unable to confront the realities of what the ruling class did and continue to identify with them on the basis of sharing a white, european identity. Whites have got alot of growing up to do as we are part of the problem, but we can also be part of the solution too.

 

[Paranoid Android]

As a White man, I've only recently started to think about the subject of race (after watching the Boondocks). I've come to realise that that is a reflection of my white privallage that for me racism has been largely invisible in the course of my life and that I have believed that legal equality is the same as equal treatment. it isn't. Much to my surprise and disgust, I hold negative sterotypes of black people (black men especially) as violent and criminal without ever consciously being a racist. it's a hard thing to admit because you want to tell yourself you are not part of the problem and it jars with the idealised sense of self as being "just". But it is actually that sense of "justice" that is part of racism as it is the "white man's burden" to "right the wrongs" and make the world in his image. The notion of "white guilt" is a tricky one because it is unconscious, but the insecurity and sense of victimhood by white people comes from the sense that we are pure and unbellemished and without sin. all attacks upon us therefore are percieved to be unjustified, but really that is a form of narcassistic rage so long as we are unable to confront the realities of what the ruling class did and continue to identify with them on the basis of sharing a white, european identity. Whites have got alot of growing up to do as we are part of the problem, but we can also be part of the solution too.

I agree with you.

If I was approached in the same thoughtful, honest way the my response would be different. If able-bodied and able-minded people would just admit that yes, they have different opinions of disabled people, then my response would be much better.
I have shown in the past that I am open to an honest, open approach. I really am. But what often happens is they get in group think and don't answer for themselves. They already know a response to me and they don't have to think real hard about there response. Let me give you an example of what am spaking about,
No matter how you search on television, people with disabilities aren't on it. On the other hand, they put us on to "inspire" you. Now, it may seem to be a good thing to do. But what is the real reason were on ? Isn't it to make you feel better about yourselves, that you don't have to deal with that disability ? Isn't it so you can say "Whew! I got it hard, but I don't have it as hard as that poor devil mr. X does " ?
That is an example. I think most people with disabilities have gotten use to there disability. I know a blind guy. Guess what ? He's used to it.. He doesn't complain, just as I don't complain about many of my disabilities. Why ? Because I am used to it.
The thing we complain about is long term problems. An example is the lack of jobs. Or the fact that mentally ill people are put in prisons, not mental hospitals. It's the social aspect of it, not the fact of our disabilities. Were used to it. But that's the thing.
Try something for me. Instead of blocking what I am saying out, LISTEN. HEAR ME. Because the opposite does not create peace, which I am dedicated to, but creates misunderstanding, anger, mistrust, e.t.c . Listen to what I say and SEE if it's TRUE. Yes, you're not stupid, but I know a Hell of a lot more than you do because I have had to deal with this my whole life. You haven't. Then IF it is TRUE, what are you going to do about it ?
See, plenty of people said there going to do something about it. But plenty of people have done NOTHING about it. So I figure that it amounts to a couple solutions: 1) They will not do anything about it, 2) They can't do anything about it, 3) They are hoping we'll believe them and lay off them and 5) There trying to buy themselves time.
Anyways, this is the main thing BE HONEST AND OPEN. I AM WITH YOU COME WHAT MAY. SO WHY NOT BE WITH ME ? THAT IS ALL I AM ASKING FOR.

 

[Robert.Evans]

How often have you heard a black person throw the race card?

How often have you heard a white person throw the race card?


Basically, why is it acceptable for a black person to be racist and not acceptable for a white person to be racist? Surely if a black person stood in the street infront of a bunch of police and shouted "white trash, white people are useless" i very VERY very highly doubt he will be arrested yet a white person who does the same would be arrested, same applies to Muslims shouting out western hatred yet if a western person shouted out Muslim hated it's hate speach and your off to a prison cell! is this political incorrectness?


when talking about blacks and Muslims we are treated like we should be walking on egg shells around them.

My understanding is this:

“race” can be anything, any group of things, not just hair, skin, etc, but also beliefs, families etc.

The meaning of the word race is different now in order to manipulate people, largely the masses. Minorities tend to feel the most threatened and therefore might riot and fight more. That costs the government money and therefore they have to try to stop it, hence, racisms, sexisms etc.

No one in England mentions the Moors (Asians and Blacks) who had white’s as slaves in Africa at the same time as we have Blacks as slaves in Europe and the Americas.

No one mentions that men in England did not have the vote at one time unless you were a lord but only mention women.

The weakest ones always feel the most threatened and shout the most.

We are seeing a difference in UK now with race and gender driven discussions, but it is still here and certainly from a media perspective, it is in favour of women and Blacks. The pendulum swings one way then another. Now it is in their favour. All you can do is vehemently complain without threats and then someone might listen to you if you do it in a legal way.


We have had women allowed as members of parliament just because they are women, which is sexism, which is apparently all right. We have had little response from the police (according to media) with abuse of children because of ‘race relations’ (Asians) to the point that young girls who were consenting have been eventually drugged and raped.


When mankind admits that we are, to one degree or another, racial, we might stop living with people we might not get on with, and then we could help each other in their own country.

If it was a perfect world, then it wouldn’t matter, but it’s not.

And so these arguments go on and on and on.