You seem to be the poster child of this phenomenon. Could you be feeling distress of this occurring that you want to extend it onto others, as if it is less troublesome that it aflicts everyone?
Not at all.
I don't think you're in a position to tell others what they feel and experience. Notice you offer no specific examples of what my gods are.
I am only commenting on the influences which motivated their actions. You did the same thing. I have given specific examples of the void operating in you. However it seems to be fading a bit.
As for the Jan 6th rioters, no, they are followers who have poor emotional intelligence and lack the skills to self-monitor.
Wait a minute... there it is, the void is back. You said: "I don't think you're in a position to tell others what they feel and experience"/ But now you're saying: "they are followers who have poor emotional intelligence and lack the skills to self-monitor."
Dude, we're saying the same thing. But the void in you trashes what I'm saying, and cannot consider that I actually know what I'm talking about, even when we agree. There's your proof. Your god is void.
Many of them have admittd to being fooled by Trump. Gullible people are duped because they lack critical thinking skills and are excessively open to suggestion and influence.
Yes! But there's a catch. If a person makes "critical thinking" a god. AND They're "arrogant". Then it produces the same gullibility and suggestability and makes a person to open to influence as well. It's a special case. The criticism is not self-directed. Once this is known, any person can feed that arrogance, and point the arrogant towards an "enemy" whom is considered stupid. And then the arrogant-zombie attacks. Figuratively or literally.
There is a book I read in college called Influence and it outlined many experiments the writers conducted and found how the subconscious can be influenced, and the people make decisions outside of awareness. This seems to be what you are suggesting, but to call the beliefs "gods" is not pracitcal or useful.
Why not? Why isn't it practical? Why isn't it useful? The reason it IS useful is because the extreme case of void is not included in your studies. But it clearly at work in many many people's lives. It is the "spirit of denial". The "rejecter". "the opposer" classically "ha-satan". The devil's advocate. But, when it takes over, a person will never realize it's there. And thats how a person ends up in science denier mode.
Once a person knows how it works, there's ways to defeat it. Kind of like reverese psychology. Kind of like zen. Which is why I am amazed that we need to have any debate at all. But, you hate theism. And you cannot tolerate being considered one of us. That division, that power, that passion, that bubbles up in opposition to, us, the ones you hate is extremely potent. And it feels good. That's why people come to debate forums.
But unity is more important. Unity but not non-duality. Did any of your classes or text books teach about? The differeces of unity as apposed to non-duality? Different sorts so of unity?
What's my delusion? You're obviously possessed by a void. No matter good points I make hey get flushed. Even when we obviously agree you can't tolerate it. And that was the point I made earlier. Anytime one of you void worshippers asks for evidence of God you are asking for pain misery and suffering. Endless suffering. SMH. Anything good God would do to prove its existence to you, would immediately go into a void. You would conclude it was anything and everything but God. Your god is void.
Ohhhh BTW
@It Aint Necessarily So .... here's another person with typos.... are you going to criticise them? Judge them?
Of course not. You were being a buffoon.
The dictionary defnition differs from what you offered. It is similar, but it wasn't the same. It's so dilluted it's meaningless. You should have just cited an acepted usage from the start of this long barrage of nonsense.
Long barrage? Power to create, destory an inspire. 6 words. Its not meaningless. It's meaningful. I mans there's no such thing as atheism. It's nothing. It doesn't exist. It's an illusion, a con.
Not to you. You are the one pushing this claim.
You're the one in denial. Or more technically, denial is in you and you serve it. Ignorantly.
Sure, that is why selecting reputable media is crucial to understanding what is going on. I don't use poor quality media so they don't have influence on me directly. They do have inflfuence over poorly inflormed, gullible citizens And in a democracy the badly influenced by corrupt actors do tend to vote in ways that negatively affect more sensible voters. This lack of reliablity of our fellow voters might motivate some to move to Mexico.
LOL. If you are unable to apply criticism to your own beliefs then you will not be able to discern "reputable". If you are arrgant, you will seek what pleases you and builds up the division that makes you feel superior. If you are unable to see both sides of an issue simultansouly, that will compromise your choices on what media to consume.
All of these are indicators that a person is serving a god, multiple gods simultaneously.
By your use of 'god' you mean 'any arbitrary thing'.
Yeah! That's right. And that makes it useful because the extreme cases are peculiar.
And Trump supporters are ending up in prison.
Oh come on. Your inner void is showing. Do you really think it's just Trumpers and only Trumpers. And their sense of duty is a boon, if it is channeled properly.
What, you don't know what's in my mind all of a sudden? What a pity.
I only read what you write. And I don't enter without an invite. Easy rules to live by. It even rhymes.
So you must be a god, too (by your own definition). Who else is convinced you are correct? It's zero so far.
That's not at all how I see myself. As I said, as the number of gods increase, the distinctions become insignificant. However, the converse is, when the number of gods decrease, the difference as infinte.
So, I consider myself a tiny little fraction of what could be considered God. The tinest little spark. But... that one spark is potent. So both things are happening simultaneously. I am remarkably capable, but also virtually nothing.
So you get to set standards but no one else? We all much agree to your standards and all else gets thrown out, because you are a ___?
No silly. I answered your question. Let me restate what I said originally. I said that the only way to not have a whole host of gods, is to walk a middle path of moderation. And it's true. Based on the definition. Everything is evaluated on a case by case basis, nothing is held up as a universal ideal, nor as a universal flaw.
It's super simple. But it's not buddhist annilation of the self which creates a void. It's not non-duality where essentially everything is equal. No. It's just doing the hard work of not making anything into a god. Atheists, sadly, are blind to the god they conjure and invoke.
Diaper rash is a god by your standard.
It can be, it depends on what it inspires a person to do. Have you ever battled with diaper rash? Perhaps on a moving airplane? What about if a person gets stuck in route, in an airport, on Christmas eve, while traveling, and diapers are limited. Woh. That's a powerful experience which inspired me in many ways.
You see, youre just being limited and short sighted abut what is and is not a god, for one purpose and one purpose only. You don't like us. Admit it. You hate theism. You blame it. It's your Satan.
As if this helps your wording and definitions?
The simple truth is
@Audie's posts are oozing with the most disjusting veiled bigotry and inferiority issues I have ever seen. And odds are, it's going to leak out. And thats what happened here. And the god you serve is flushes that down into nothingness. Because your god is void. And you serve it with unquestioning devotion out of pure ignorance.
I'm willing to be comprehensible and comprehend others, so I used established and accepted definitions. You want to create a little world in your mind with your own rules and expect the rest of us to crawl in with you. It's not that interesting, plus the real world is vastly more interesting.
Everything I've said is objectively observable. You are choosing to follow the herd. Because it permits you to feel superior. God forbid some Christian answer a question honestly about their beliefs, because here comes F1 to tickle on their posts. Claiming it's "
deadly unwise"... oh boy.
Why wouldn't she be considered a god by her fans
LOL, you said:
If we atheists were Taylor Swift fans you would no doubt find a collection of people who consider her a god.
And now you're saying...
Why wouldn't she be considered a god by her fans
See. hee. Of course she is. And thats why I'm right. And it' hilarious that you would even bring up a famous musician. How completely blind are you? Very. Obviously. All I had to do was type "Taylor Swift is a God." First hit. Poof.
And here you in completel denial. It doesn't matter if God reached down from heaven gave you a big fat kiss on the mouth, and and inflated your lungs for you. That entire experience would go straight to your god. Wow.
On the one hand, it's really satisfying for me, to be right. And also, it's kind of like watching a person with no left leg trying to walk across the street.
, that is what the accepted definition is (and even yours even through it is way too broad to mean much). Remember, being a god is a deliberate act that a person invests interest in to an extreme degree.
No.... that is your narrow shallow view which permits you to remain in ignorance. It's fine. Just be sure not to lift up your your god and and start preaching about it in a debate if you don't want to be challenged. It's no different than any other person on RF.
If you promote a god and serve it, it gets challenged.
Your type of god is squirrels chewing on your house, whether you like them doing it or not.
No.... not true. They CAN be gods, IF they inspire me. They're potency IS my choice. If I am aware of what a god is and how they work.
