You will live as long as Noah...

[sooda]

Words fail me...…

From your website:

Lastly, and this one is certainly debatable but does warrant mention - Edgar Cayce, one of the most noted psychics of our time, correlated the Pyramids to the time of Atlantis and dated them to - you guessed it - 10,500 B.C.........….

This is what we are dealing with..

 

[sealchan]

This is not about a debate if this really happened.

There are people addressing what I did not want to. I should have worded this differently. I wanted to talk about what it would feel like to live that long?

I would have been born in 1069 AD, before the Magna Carta, before Martin Luther King, while Muslims were still in southern spain, before steam trains. Pope Nicholas II was in charge of the Catholic Church. England was still consumed with internal warrings...

It would still have been the Middle Ages. The Crusades had yet to start. Admittedly the likelihood that I would survive all that time to today is nil.

In what I believe is a debatable translation, God eventually shortened the lives of all humans to <120 years, saying, "he would not continue to contend with man...". I think he actually meant he would shorten our lives as an act of mercy. I'm 72 and am close to having had way too much fun. It would be too tearing and heart breaking to live for almost 1000 years.

I'm assuming that all humans had long life spans, but perhaps there were only several men who lived that long, to what end, I wonder.

I think that the shorter life spans caused 'progress' to move faster.

Was Noah reputed to be alive when Abraham was alive? For me that would be an awesome untold story of the Bible for Abraham to meet up with a mysterious ancient stranger and learn about the "old days".

 

[Shad]

A volcanic eruption? Really?!? Next you're going to tell me gas leaks or weather balloons if I happen to see something in the sky! Btw, are you from FBI, CIA, or some other counterintelligence group? Because that's weak.

Wrong I was providing your information without slamming your idea into the dirt.

A volcanic eruption delivers localized ash and volcanic matter. Very localized in fact. People in Hawaii semi-routinely get eruptions. Their island recovers and areas outside the immediate killzone are usually unaffected. In fact, an eruption usually behaves in the reverse order (famine then massive fertility, whereas biotech plus nuclear tech might account for this). It also provides a legit reason why people stopped living as long. Watch Columbo, where he talks about how people give him "plausible explanations" but unfortunately, they are like puzzles where not all pieces fit. Not all the pieces fit! Why do they talk in the scripture about lifespan lowering? The only Wikipedia also says of it...

The Thera eruption destroyed the Island it was on. Hawaii does not have eruptions like that. You are babble without looking up anything about what I posted.

Minoan eruption - Wikipedia

Lemme ask you something. You're an ancient people with tech only available by the elites. What do you associate a massive sun covering fog with? Pretty much just an eruption, because you're dumb natives. We have an entire continent (Atlantis, according to the Greek myths they probably are referring to) knocked underwater. Eruptions, btw, typically create land, not sink it. In fact, when they STOP ERUPTING is when volcanic islands sink. Btw, the timeline of this sinking of Atlantis and other Greek myths? Guess. Yup, 2000 BC.

Babble based on nothing.

If you had read the article, you will find that there is in fact evidence.

• The Hindus themselves accept that this weapon was a nuke. Look up the word Brahmastra and see what Hindus say about it.
  
• The nuclear scientists themselves mentioned when asked about the first atomic explosion, "the first in modern times." Read up on it. Oppenheimer said that. Also, even if he didn't (there are "fact-checkers" who claim it's a copypasted misquote) one thing he is on record saying is,"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds" which is a direct quote from Hindu scripture
  
• There are seas of glass in some desert areas. But you say, hot deserts... no. To make glass out of sand requires burning-hot temperatures. The lowest temperature in which air ignites is around 400+ and this is a low flame. A volcanic eruption would account for such heat, except such areas usually have rich volcanic soil and are not barren and solid glass. In fact, nuclear test zones sometimes have this sort of glass.
  
• There's an area near Rajasthan, India that is oddly radioactive. If I had to point it out, it's not the city itself (fine) but a small ruined fort called Bhangarh Fort, which is reputedly haunted and visitors are not allowed overnight. It has never been re-inhabited for some mysterious reason.
  
• In Gabon, West Africa they found uranium when they were looking for uranium. Only problem? It had previously been spent.
  
• Scotland has a few stone ruins that are fused into glass. Remember what I said about making glass. It's one thing if they built them out of that. But they would need at the very least, a blowtorch, and this was wide area.
  
• Exact quote:
  
• Oh yes, and the scriptue of the Bible and Mahabharata. Btw, they have a picture of the weapon as Arjuna and his opponent are about ready to use it. Yup, the copy of my book had illustrations. It's an "arrow" that has a bright flame to it, and a ring around it.

More Babble without a citation.

 

[sooda]

Wrong I was providing your information without slamming your idea into the dirt.



The Thera eruption destroyed the Island it was on. Hawaii does not have eruptions like that. You are babble without looking up anything about what I posted.

Minoan eruption - Wikipedia





Babble based on nothing.



More Babble without a citation.

She has already ignored posts and a link about Santorini.. Edgar Cayce is her authority.

 

[Shad]

Santorini (Thera) Volcano is the mostly likely source of the Atlantis myth.

Santorini Volcano Ash, Traced Afar, Gives a Date of 1623 B ...

Jun 07, 1994 · ASH believed to be from a great explosive eruption that buried the Minoan colony on the island of Santorini 36 centuries ago has been extracted from deep in an ice core retrieved last year from central Greenland. Its depth in the core indicated that the Aegean eruption, which may have given rise to the Atlantis legend, occurred in or about 1623 B.C.

Santorini Volcano Ash, Traced Afar, Gives a Date of 1623 B.C.

The user already dismissed it when I pointed Thera out.

Hilarious that we both posted the same comment about the user ignoring Thera.

Figures the user believes a known fraud as their source.

 

[sooda]

The user already dismissed it when I pointed Thera out.

Hilarious that we both posted the same comment about the user ignoring Thera.

Figures the user believes a known fraud as their source.

Edgar Cayce and Nostradamus? LOL

 

[Shad]

It's not about that. The question was: how would you feel if you lived that long?

Yes I know. I want to know if other people live as long. The answer to that question will modify my answer to your question.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Was Noah reputed to be alive when Abraham was alive? For me that would be an awesome untold story of the Bible for Abraham to meet up with a mysterious ancient stranger and learn about the "old days".

Apparently, the Jews think that they lived together for 39 years. After the flood ??? That would be an interesting study.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Yes I know. I want to know if other people live as long. The answer to that question will modify my answer to your question.

I don't know. The Bible does not say.

 

[Shad]

I don't know. The Bible does not say.

Sorry I am a bit confused here. Are you asking what it would be like living as Noah or as long as Noah?

 

[Ellen Brown]

Sorry I am a bit confused here. Are you asking what it would be like living as Noah or as long as Noah?

980 YEARS, to simplify.

 

[Shad]

980 YEARS, to simplify.

Okay. Now am I the only one that lives that long?

If it only me living that long a lot of things can happen which makes that life experience horrible. If everyone or say my bloodline lives that long the outlook will be different.

 

[sealchan]

This is not about a debate if this really happened.

There are people addressing what I did not want to. I should have worded this differently. I wanted to talk about what it would feel like to live that long?

I would have been born in 1069 AD, before the Magna Carta, before Martin Luther King, while Muslims were still in southern spain, before steam trains. Pope Nicholas II was in charge of the Catholic Church. England was still consumed with internal warrings...

It would still have been the Middle Ages. The Crusades had yet to start. Admittedly the likelihood that I would survive all that time to today is nil.

In what I believe is a debatable translation, God eventually shortened the lives of all humans to <120 years, saying, "he would not continue to contend with man...". I think he actually meant he would shorten our lives as an act of mercy. I'm 72 and am close to having had way too much fun. It would be too tearing and heart breaking to live for almost 1000 years.

I'm assuming that all humans had long life spans, but perhaps there were only several men who lived that long, to what end, I wonder.

I think that the shorter life spans caused 'progress' to move faster.

Interesting thoughts...have you seen the movie The Age of Adaline? There are also the Twilight movies and novels which describe vampires as living indefinitely I believe and the central romance involves a regular human who doesn't want to be left behind age wise.

Also there is Tolkien's Silmarillion which describes the undying elves...and how the appearance of mortal man contrasts with them.

I think that experience makes us grow wiser, more patient and helps us to appreciate the small things in life while we simultaneously learn to play "the long game". That could set up some interesting lives I think. Would it make us more complacent? Or wiser? More or less willing to take risks? Would it make unnecessary deaths even more tragic?

 

[Ellen Brown]

Interesting thoughts...have you seen the movie The Age of Adaline? There are also the Twilight movies and novels which describe vampires as living indefinitely I believe and the central romance involves a regular human who doesn't want to be left behind age wise.

Also there is Tolkien's Silmarillion which describes the undying elves...and how the appearance of mortal man contrasts with them.

I think that experience makes us grow wiser, more patient and helps us to appreciate the small things in life while we simultaneously learn to play "the long game". That could set up some interesting lives I think. Would it make us more complacent? Or wiser? More or less willing to take risks? Would it make unnecessary deaths even more tragic?

At this point, living to be 72 is too long to live, IMHO. The weight of my own sins, weather by innocent ignorance, or by malice, I don't know, bears me down. While my own beliefs insist that I forgive and put away anger, it does not seem to be a two way street. Perhaps short lives gives us a chance to start over with a clean slate?

 

[Vee]

I think that the shorter life spans caused 'progress' to move faster.

Could be. I wouldn't mind having a longer life spam, and less stress though. It's overwhelming right now. I feel like I'm constantly running.

 

[sealchan]

At this point, living to be 72 is too long to live, IMHO. The weight of my own sins, weather by innocent ignorance, or by malice, I don't know, bears me down. While my own beliefs insist that I forgive and put away anger, it does not seem to be a two way street. Perhaps short lives gives us a chance to start over with a clean slate?

I suppose ones life could be seen as a progressive blessing or a progressive burden. In the latter case longer life prolongs and deepens the suffering.

But in a systemic reality, that prolonged suffering might also come with an increased chance of working ones way through and out of such suffering, it would increase the spiritual wisdom of our population perhaps .

 

[Samantha Rinne]

Blue

Wrong I was providing your information without slamming your idea into the dirt.

The Thera eruption destroyed the Island it was on. Hawaii does not have eruptions like that. You are babble without looking up anything about what I posted.

Minoan eruption - Wikipedia

Yes, I read this article. It also says as I was quick to point out that no volcano was mentioned in any historical records. In other words, this is an event that is invented to explain why there was basically a seven-year period without spring. But both volcanoes AND nukes produce this effect. Only nukes degrade genetics however, resulting in shortened lifespan.

Babble based on nothing.

Based on nothing? So, I have two web articles, one of which explains why volcanic eruptions create land, and one about how a volcanic island that ceases to be volcanic slowly sinks. While it is possible that a volcano can be blown apart by explosive volcanic energy (see Krakatoa and Roanoke Island), what happens far more often is that when magma hits water, it cools and the volcanic material becomes soil and rock. Meanwhile, atomic fission always does one thing, break things apart. The only thing it ever fuses is sand and rock into glass via superheating. Volcanoes can create toxic air that kills people, and stunts plants/animals. Mainly through toxic materials blotting out the sun, and high amounts of stuff like sulfur. But there is an upside. In only about 2 or so years, the affected area typically bounces back, being more fertile than before. In contrast, while nuclear explosions also create high heat and kick up dust, plants and animals under nukes have very poor fertility, and eating them has an adverse effect on the body, possibly shortening lifespan and altering genetics.

More Babble without a citation.

So, citations automatically equate to proof? Couldn't I just make up a citation, and have you believe it? Citations, are in fact, completely worthless. I created a research paper, where I did basically zero research, and threw together random book sources. I had no idea what I was saying, and I faked my way through and got a B+. A B+ for using footnotes to fudge facts, and claim stuff that I wanted to say. "Putting a footnote when you don't have any facts doesn't really prove anything."[1] This was in fact the first thing we learned in historiography, that writers of history, despite numerous footnotes, cannot be trusted because they may have an axe to grind.

You know what does? Having things work considering what information you are given. So?

• Thera Eruption is not historically recorded, and it could easily be another cause
  
• Radioactive fallout and volcanic smog both kill plants. However, areas affected by nuclear radiation possibly shortens life through altering DNA and through stuff like cancer. Volcanic eruptions only cause personal sickness, having no effect on the species.
  
• There was at this time, apparently a war recorded in Hindu myth using strange weapons that have effects that putrify even water along with tainted food and making hair fall out. This is curiously specific. In fact, let's give the exact quote and you can decide.
  
  "A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe...An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race. The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white. After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river."
  
  
• There's a 3-square-miles area of HIGHLY radioactive ash 10 miles west of Jodhpur, Rajasthan where tourists are not allowed to stay for prolonged periods and was never re-inhabited even centuries later (something that generally does not happen). There are several other strange areas that have unusual radiation.
• Scientists somehow know how long nuclear effects take to break up.

That all depends on the half-life of the material that was radioactive

Here’s a miniature chart to show you how long radiation would last from different elements.

Now, nuclear radiation may be lethal for longer, or shorter than the times listed here, these are just the half-life’s of the basic elements themselves, which gives you a base for what they could be.

Francium - Fr-223 - 22 minutes
Radium - Ra-226 - 1600 years
Actinium - Ac-227 - 21.77 years
Thorium - Th-229 - 7.54 x 10^4 years
Uranium has a half-life of 4.5 billion years.
Plutonium has a half-life of 24,100 years.
Technetium has a half-life of 211,000 years

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[1] Public, John Q. The Validity of Cited Materials. 5th Edition. Doubleday Publishing, 1982.
(I wrote this actually, but I'm gonna claim someone else did, so you'll believe me. You believe me, correct?)

 

[ManSinha]

This is not about a debate if this really happened.

There are people addressing what I did not want to. I should have worded this differently. I wanted to talk about what it would feel like to live that long?

I would have been born in 1069 AD, before the Magna Carta, before Martin Luther King, while Muslims were still in southern spain, before steam trains. Pope Nicholas II was in charge of the Catholic Church. England was still consumed with internal warrings...

It would still have been the Middle Ages. The Crusades had yet to start. Admittedly the likelihood that I would survive all that time to today is nil.

In what I believe is a debatable translation, God eventually shortened the lives of all humans to <120 years, saying, "he would not continue to contend with man...". I think he actually meant he would shorten our lives as an act of mercy. I'm 72 and am close to having had way too much fun. It would be too tearing and heart breaking to live for almost 1000 years.

I'm assuming that all humans had long life spans, but perhaps there were only several men who lived that long, to what end, I wonder.

I think that the shorter life spans caused 'progress' to move faster.

Have you ever watched the TV show - The Highlander

 

[ManSinha]

From an Eastern perspective, people during the golden age especially lived much longer than they do in the dark/machine/Kali yuga.

Ram Rajya - the rule of the incarnation of Lord Vishnu is supposed to have lasted 10000 years

 

[ManSinha]

"A single projectile charged with all the power in the Universe...An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as 10,000 suns, rose in all its splendor...it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death which reduced to ashes an entire race. The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognizable. Their hair and nails fell out, pottery broke without any apparent cause, and the birds turned white. After a few hours, all foodstuffs were infected. To escape from this fire, the soldiers threw themselves into the river."

Are you referring to the Brahmastra?