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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
And for you, chum - never needed any religion ta very much - there lies the way into the morass - so what exactly was it made you choose one particular path over another?
There are infinite paths, but only one destination...the truth of Cosmic being. Only atheists deny their is no underlying unified cosmic being...
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
There are infinite paths, but only one destination...the truth of Cosmic being.

Not what many of the others say though is it - the many other beliefs - so why would I or an alien believe your version of reality?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
I don't have a version of reality, I accept reality as it is on the other side of mortal conceptualization of it!

I have a belief that about 85% of the population are delusional - like to prove me wrong?
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
You are changing the subject....respond to my last post!

What am I supposed to say to some concept that might or might not be true? I have no evidence to base an opinion on. All religious beliefs are just theories to me - and none have any more value than any other.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
Admit you are ignorant as to the truth or not truth of that which was given!

Where do you get all this from? I was not indoctrinated with any religious belief, hence I decided on my own volition to believe what makes sense to me. Religions just don't. Quite simple. We are all ignorant (mostly) concerning the truth, except that I seem to accept it more readily than most - the 85% who believe in some religion, for example. :rolleyes:
 

Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Where do you get all this from? I was not indoctrinated with any religious belief, hence I decided on my own volition to believe what makes sense to me. Religions just don't. Quite simple. We are all ignorant (mostly) concerning the truth, except that I seem to accept it more readily than most - the 85% who believe in some religion, for example. :rolleyes:
But truth has nothing to do with belief, truth is being, being is reality. If you rely on belief for reality, then you are an atheist aka materialist.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
But truth has nothing to do with belief, truth is being, being is reality. If you rely on belief for reality, then you are an atheist!

I am a wavering agnostic as to the existence of any creator or any creative force. It ends there. I don't speculate.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
You're sitting alone in an airport waiting for your flight which is due to board shortly when the person siting next to you engages you in a discussion about religion. During the course of the conversation he mentions that his religion is the only true religion. Being a different religion from your own, you disagree and tell him yours is thee true religion. He looks at his watch and says, "Okay, you've got a few minutes to make your case. Take your best shot." Taking him up on his challenge you tell him:___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ .





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"Here....try this piece of bacon."
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
It's the best.

Where do you get to?.

Mainly the Alps on climbing holidays (Chamonix), so driving down, and through France to Switzerland a few times too, and to Italy, lol. So I've seen a fair bit of Paris at times. I also drove down to San Sebastian once and across through Spain to Barcelona and then back. I also cycled from Geneva over many of the Tour de France passes to Nice and then around Corsica once. I love France, and the French, but my language skills are not good. I had to give up French for Science for GCE - and I failed Science, but I was reasonably good at French then. :oops: We even had a real French teacher too, a Monsieur Anglerais I think. :D
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
The real is on the other side of the words, if you mistake the conceptualization about reality for reality, you will never understand!

What reality? The one we actually live in rather than the one conceptualised by others? I think I understand the first. The rest, as I said, I don't speculate about. And I would rather understand what goes on here on Earth actually than speculate on higher matters.
 
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Mainly the Alps on climbing holidays (Chamonix), so driving down, and through France to Switzerland a few times too, and to Italy, lol. So I've seen a fair bit of Paris at times. I also drove down to San Sebastian once and across through Spain to Barcelona and then back. I also cycled from Geneva over many of the Tour de France passes to Nice and then around Corsica once. I love France, and the French, but my language skills are not good. I had to give up French for Science for GCE - and I failed Science, but I was reasonably good at French then. :oops: We even had a real French teacher too, a Monsieur Anglerais I think. :D

When we were looking for property we started in Italy, Puglia, Campania, Umbria and Marche. Then a holiday in France won us over, Loire, Charente, Midi-Pyrenees, Limousin, and eventually found the perfect place in the village we holidayed in.

Been here over 3 years and love it, speaking french is not so bad but we do misunderstand some of the older folk still using Occitan. We are having culture lessons.
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
When we were looking for property we started in Italy, Puglia, Campania, Umbria and Marche. Then a holiday in France won us over, Loire, Charente, Midi-Pyrenees, Limousin, and eventually found the perfect place in the village we holidayed in.

Been here over 3 years and love it, speaking french is not so bad but we do misunderstand some of the older folk still using Occitan. We are having culture lessons.

I could quite see myself living there. As I said, I love France, and have no issues with the French. I had a SSB short wave radio once and I fell in love with the French female giving out shipping instructions, so lovely was her voice. :oops: :D
 
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