Your chance to guide me to God!

[loverofhumanity]

If a mathematican hangs a black man in the street it does not make math a lie.
It makes the mathematician a bad person,it also still sounds like your bashing your beliefs of your morals not logic or evidence.

Scientifically speaking, all humanity is one race regardless of religion, race or nationality. If you cut open a person on an operating table all you’ll see is that they are human. No bashing going on here just a candid acknowledgement that we are all one human family and that divisions are all imaginary.

 

[ElytBlank]

Scientifically speaking, all humanity is one race regardless of religion, race or nationality. If you cut open a person on an operating table all you’ll see is that they are human. No bashing going on here just a candid acknowledgement that we are all one human family and that divisions are all imaginary.

That sounds like a philosophy not a religion,I'm pretty sure it's called liberalism not religion,this is also not evidence of a religion (being an explanation for the origin of the universe)
But rather an idea about humans,it sounds like your just an atheist who really wants peace which is great,but not a religion

 

[Tamino]

Hello religious ones and welcome to my post
I grew up Christian and at one point belived I ha d the holy spirit
Now Its been 3 years that I've been in agony over God's silence and I'm ready to get to the bottom of this
Il be truthful this will be very hard for atheists,to say life came from dust without help is unbelievable to me
But il hear everyone out

I have my own experience with trying to be Christian, and struggling with a silent god. I hope that you will find your way and a truth that gives you peace.

But if my gods or goddesses want you, they're perfectly able to call to you.
I'm happy to share some of my experiences and answer questions, however, the "guiding to God" I'll leave to them.

 

[The Hammer]

That sounds like a philosophy not a religion

They're nigh interchangeable

 

[The Hammer]

Whatever you belive is what I'd like to hear about

I have no real desires about making other people believe the way I do. We all walk our own individual Paths.

Edit: Interviewing @The Hammer

Feel free to look through this though.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Excellent, I will suggest the best guidance that anyone can possibly offer in this life.

The Revelation of the Bab and Baha'u'llah will guide you to God's Message for this age.

You can find all you need here.

Bahá’í Reference Library | The Bahá’í Faith

www.bahai.org

Regards Tony

 

[ElytBlank]

I have my own experience with trying to be Christian, and struggling with a silent god. I hope that you will find your way and a truth that gives you peace.

But if my gods or goddesses want you, they're perfectly able to call to you.
I'm happy to share some of my experiences and answer questions, however, the "guiding to God" I'll leave to them.

Id love to hear about your beliefs

 

[Heyo]

Hello religious ones and welcome to my post
I grew up Christian and at one point belived I ha d the holy spirit
Now Its been 3 years that I've been in agony over God's silence and I'm ready to get to the bottom of this
Il be truthful this will be very hard for atheists,to say life came from dust without help is unbelievable to me
But il hear everyone out

I'm not a Christian, and I was never a believer, but I don't think it would be a useful way to deal with your problem if I'd try to convince you to "see it my way".
I think you need someone to help you order your thoughts.

Let me give an example:
I post #20, you reflect on the beginning of the universe, life on Earth and other life "out there".
Aside from some misconceptions about the scientific view of some of those things,
what is the relevance to your belief and your daily life if it was one way or the other?

 

[loverofhumanity]

That sounds like a philosophy not a religion,I'm pretty sure it's called liberalism not religion,this is also not evidence of a religion (being an explanation for the origin of the universe)
But rather an idea about humans,it sounds like your just an atheist who really wants peace which is great,but not a religion

Maybe you haven’t come across our ‘philosophy’ yet?

One Human Family | Essential Relationships | What Bahá’ís Believe

The website of the worldwide Bahá’í community

www.bahai.org

 

[Martin]

Hello religious ones and welcome to my post
I grew up Christian and at one point belived I ha d the holy spirit
Now Its been 3 years that I've been in agony over God's silence and I'm ready to get to the bottom of this
Il be truthful this will be very hard for atheists,to say life came from dust without help is unbelievable to me
But il hear everyone out

Look deeply within.

 

[mangalavara]

Look deeply within.

I second this.

Many individuals find God or Bhagavān within their being. It can be done by sitting in a comfortable position, closing the eyes, and going to the place of pilgrimage that is one’s heart. Being open to Bhagavān and repeating his name over and over, one may attain the encounter. One will see that Bhagavān is the Absolute, is loving, and is a boundless ocean of bliss.

Other individuals realize not God but the Self. Using their intellect, they come to understand that they are not the body, mind, intellect, or ego but pure consciousness. A bit further, they realize, they experience that the Self that they ultimately are is the Absolute, non-dual, and is a boundless ocean of bliss.

Both perspectives and experiences change outlooks on life, the world, and everything.

 

[Hermit Philosopher]

Now Its been 3 years that I've been in agony over God's silence and I'm ready to get to the bottom of this

Hello @ElytBlank,

I do not mean to pry but would like to understand a little more before entering into conversations about potential root-causes to anything, so if it’s okay:

What occurred 3 years ago?
When you say “God’s silence”, what do you mean, more specifically?


Humbly, Hermit

 

[Tamino]

Id love to hear about your beliefs

Well, I really tried to be Christian as a teenager. I was interested in religion and was quite active in my local Lutheran church. It's a bit of a family tradition - both my grandfather and my aunt aren't just pastors, but doctors of theology. However, the more I learned and studied, the worse it became.
I stumbled over the rampant patriarchy, the problem of evil, and finally the entire concept of sin and salvation. It didn't make sense to me. Why would an omnipotent and loving deity create such an imperfect world? And if salvation is the final goal, why concoct such a convoluted scheme to get there, with so much suffering on the way?
I checked out a few other denominations... Evangelicals, Catholics and an ecumenical monastic community. But that didn't help with the very basic questions I had.
I would probably have stayed a Christian, if at least I'd had some kind of emotional or spiritual connection. But, same as you said: God remained silent.
...
In the end, things worked out for me in a very unexpected way. After a vacation in Egypt, I was so fascinated by the ancient culture that I started studying Egyptology at university. I couldn't say what exactly gripped me so much, but I couldn't help it. I learned Middle Egyptian, and in the texts of this ancient language I found spiritual concepts that finally made sense. I found a theology, a worldview, that resonated with my deepest heart and soul and made sense to my rational mind at the same time. These gods and goddesses were not silent - they were present in the world around me, and had a lot to say.

It might sound weird, because on the surface, Egyptian theology is quite messy. But that's also what helps. The ancient texts are not seen as dogma or divine ordinance. They're written by humans and they offer different metaphors and explanations of spiritual matters. And you can engage with those texts and concepts, and re-interprete them, and find your own metaphors.
Patriarchy? - well, gender is a flexible concept and there are plenty of different stories. Just pick the ones you like, and don't be afraid to challenge any injustice you find.
Problem of evil? Actually, if gods and goddesses are neither thought to be all powerful nor all good, the whole conundrum puffs into nothingness.
Sin and salvation? Well, Egyptian ethics give free will and responsibility for their actions to each individual, but they also don't expect perfection and give you plenty of chances to get help.
Do not make an image or likeness of God? The Egyptians would see that as folly. Make as many images of the gods as you can - none of them is true, but each might capture a certain spark or aspect of the divine.
I also found that the Egyptian view of the world is deeply animistic. Personhood is not at all limited to humans. Animals, for example, are seen as beings in their own way, with their own ways of life, and rights, and connection to divinity. Places and plants, the entire cosmos is inherently sacred.

So that's how I left the Lutheran church (though I still like to visit sometimes) and became an Egyptian pagan and polytheist 20 years ago.
It's probably not something that fits a lot of people, but perhaps you may want to keep your eyes open end explore other spiritual systems beyond christianity and monotheism.

 

[RestlessSoul]

The beloved is closer to me
Than my own self

The problem is this:
I am far from Him

What am I to do?
Whom can I tell about this?

The Beloved is so close to me
and I
am far
far away

Sa’Di

I think the answer to this poet’s question, is to heed the words of the Psalmist who said, “Be still, and know that I am God”.

 

[Quintessence]

When you say you believe you had the holy spirit, what did (or does) that mean to you? What was that like in your experience?

 

[ElytBlank]

Hello @ElytBlank,

I do not mean to pry but would like to understand a little more before entering into conversations about potential root-causes to anything, so if it’s okay:

What occurred 3 years ago?
When you say “God’s silence”, what do you mean, more specifically?


Humbly, Hermit

3 years ago I was pretty deep into sin and stopped going to church,reading the bible,and even praying
Since then I've desperately clawed st everything to try to find God begging,reading the Bible everyday for weeks,and crying but all for naught
All I want is some kind of conformation in my beliefs

 

[ElytBlank]

When you say you believe you had the holy spirit, what did (or does) that mean to you? What was that like in your experience?

I was praying on my floor in the middle of the night and started to cry as the words left my mouth faster and faster then it fell like I a heavy weighted blanket had been removed from my mind

 

[ElytBlank]

I'm not a Christian, and I was never a believer, but I don't think it would be a useful way to deal with your problem if I'd try to convince you to "see it my way".
I think you need someone to help you order your thoughts.

Let me give an example:
I post #20, you reflect on the beginning of the universe, life on Earth and other life "out there".
Aside from some misconceptions about the scientific view of some of those things,
what is the relevance to your belief and your daily life if it was one way or the other?

None to my daily life,but I'm human and want to understand the universe to my best ability

 

[Wherenextcolumbus]

Id love to hear about your beliefs

I’m atheist because I’m not going to assume that the source for the things I/we don’t understand yet, is “god” when I have no evidence for that.
That and for arguments sake, let’s say god does exist (as in a being that created planet earth and everything that exists here) where did that god come from? and what is that god even like? What does it want from us?
We project human emotions and experiences onto “god.” God could be similar to a psychopath and decided to create life out of boredom and a need for entertainment. We simply do not know, so why would I allow it to control my life?

 

[an anarchist]

@ElytBlank , you say you “grew up Christian”. I also notice you have your age listed as 14. Is that a mistake? If not, well I recommended giving yourself some time to grow up! Your brain is still growing…

I won’t try to convince you of anything or direct you in any way now that I see you have your age listed as 14. All I can say is things will look different when you are an adult than when you are a teenager. You may have a wholly new perspective.