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Your new neighbor is a child molester.

Read the O.P.

  • I have kids and am worried to the point that I might move.

    Votes: 7 25.0%
  • I have kids, he claims he's cured, good enough for me. I'd let him babysit my kids.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I don't have kids and have second thoughts of having any with him next door

    Votes: 7 25.0%
  • I don't have kids but plan on having some, and would not worry about our new neighbor it the least

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • None of the above. Please state your option.

    Votes: 11 39.3%

  • Total voters
    28

Mathematician

Reason, and reason again
Mike182 said:
i have not been reading this thread throughout today, except for when i posted at the start of it, and i must say, i am actually quite sickend by some of the ideas i have read!

i am sorry, but first of all, i hate the idea of posting flyers and signs everywhere saying "we have a known paedophile right here!" as this would cause a lot of undue panic and unrest, it will seriously amplify the situation into something it isn't

second, the idea of being stupidly polite to them whilest threatening to do sadistic and torturous things to them is one i find thoroughly sickening! how can someone claim they are a caring person, yet be prepared to do something as horrid as this?

i agree with sunstone's point about this being one of those situations where there is no just or perfect solution, and so we should look for a balanced solution between protecting our children, and forgiving a person and allowing them to live a life that is not a constant barrage of hate

the answer? i have non, but i do know this, i will not compromise on my belief that no one deserves to be unduely terrorised
Excellent post, I must say. :)
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
Mike182 said:
second, the idea of being stupidly polite to them whilest threatening to do sadistic and torturous things to them is one i find thoroughly sickening! how can someone claim they are a caring person, yet be prepared to do something as horrid as this?

the answer? i have non, but i do know this, i will not compromise on my belief that no one deserves to be unduely terrorised
GeneCosta said:
Excellent post, I must say. :)
I almost missed that one GeneCosta, thanks for complimenting his post, so I can pick up on it. I would fully welcome anyone into my community, BUT the proviso would be, **** about with our kids (which he may or may not do!!!) and don't think you'll be waving to us from the back of a police vehicle, because you won't be getting into one. I think he'd appreciate my honesty (and my smile), and if he didn't...its probably because all he thinks will happen if he reoffends is that he'll be arrested again, and my threat to deal with him before any police arrive might not have been in his game plan.

(As a post script I have a right hand and a left, dexter and sinister if you will, with the right being mercy, the left being severity and the middle between being mildness. As is said too much severity unchecked becomes evil, yet too much mercy becomes weakness, best adopt mildness. I like to think when I ponder these three paths 'hey two out of three ain't bad!')
 

Pardus

Proud to be a Sinner.
"I have some concerns about your past, i'm happy to let you start over, but i would prefer it if you did not associate with my children."
 

Flappycat

Well-Known Member
A few genialities and a few questions, followed by "Well, that sucks, and hope everything comes out well. Hey, ah, not to be rude, but I think you'd be better off if I kept my kids away from you. We're trying to keep you out of prison, right? Welcome to the neighborhood, and take care of the lawn, righto? Call me if you have trouble finding a place." Handshake. Smile. Take leave.

To my neighbors, "Hey, the poor guy got convicted for child molestation. He seems reformed, but keep an eye on your kids for a while. He strikes me as a nice guy, and I don't want him trouble again, know what I mean?"
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
Flappycat said:
A few genialities and a few questions, followed by "Well, that sucks, and hope everything comes out well. Hey, ah, not to be rude, but I think you'd be better off if I kept my kids away from you. We're trying to keep you out of prison, right? Welcome to the neighborhood, and take care of the lawn, righto? Call me if you have trouble finding a place." Handshake. Smile. Take leave.

To my neighbors, "Hey, the poor guy got convicted for child molestation. He seems reformed, but keep an eye on your kids for a while. He strikes me as a nice guy, and I don't want him trouble again, know what I mean?"
Flappy cat, if we lived in the same neigbourhood I'd probably let you welcome him. Anyway, I'm bound to bump into him in out and about. The last thing the neigbourhood needs is to know they have a total psycho living in their midst...they're just coming to terms with a paedophile....:areyoucra
 

Flappycat

Well-Known Member
Nehustan said:
Flappy cat, if we lived in the same neigbourhood I'd probably let you welcome him.
I don't believe in going to neighbors to welcome them. When on their land, they will hear only that you endorse them wholly and either reject or forget any words of criticism. When on neutral land, they will hear all of what you say and take promises and requests as mutual agreements between equals.

Anyway, I'm bound to bump into him in out and about. The last thing the neigbourhood needs is to know they have a total psycho living in their midst...they're just coming to terms with a paedophile....:areyoucra
I do not believe in spreading gossip to people I barely know. Strangers will either ignore you or hear only the worst of what you say. Close friends will take your advice and requests fully to heart if they value your judgement. My advice would be caution, and my request would be based upon my individually deduced impressions.
 

standing_alone

Well-Known Member
I chose "I don't have kids and have second thoughts of having any with him next door ." Now, I wouldn't do anything drastic like drawing and quartering. I would just try to treat him as any other neighbor, BUT DEFINATELY keep and eye on the kids and still be cautious. But I wouldn't go out of the way to alienate him. That could just create more problems. He touches any kids, he's going down - but I'd prefer it in the judicial system and not by an angry mob, as much as I'd be tempted to join that mob with my animal, revenge instinct.
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
Flappycat said:
My advice would be caution, and my request would be based upon my individually deduced impressions.
Well like the saying goes, when it comes to judging by the left '...taught to be cautious.'
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
jgallandt said:
Because Mike, my children's welfare comes before a person that has shown to harm children. Stats show he will more then likely do it again. I will protect my kids all all cost, Screw his feelings. What about the feelings of the kids who's life he's already destroyed? do they not count? Or my kids feelings if he molests them?
theres a difference between protecting your kids and just being damn hateful towards a person :rolleyes:

Nehustan:
i have a right side and a left, but i also have my principles and my convicted beliefs, which i will not compromise on, and these include the belief that no person deserves death or torture

how can so many people on here be the most caring people i have every had the pleasure to talk to, and yet be filled with so much blind hatred on one subject? :confused:
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Mike, when you have kids, maybe you'll understand better. Parental instinct. Protect your kids at all costs. Trust is earned, not given Hateful? Maybe. BUT MY KIDS WELFARE COMES 1ST! Your boyfriend is raped and beaten. The person who does this goes to jail, gets out, moves in next door to you. You gonna be nice and trust him?
 

Mike182

Flaming Queer
jgallandt said:
Mike, when you have kids, maybe you'll understand better. Parental instinct. Protect your kids at all costs. Trust is earned, not given Hateful? Maybe. BUT MY KIDS WELFARE COMES 1ST! Your boyfriend is raped and beaten. The person who does this goes to jail, gets out, moves in next door to you. You gonna be nice and trust him?
i really do understand what you are saying, but i would not be sadistic towards them, at worst, i would keep out of their way
 

jeffrey

†ßig Dog†
Mike,
Nor would I. I would cause him no harm, as long as they showed no interest in my kids. The more interest in my kids, the more protective I would become. Look at that little girl in Florida, taken from her bedroom. Forced to live in a closet. Raped. Molested. Abused. Then buried alive with her teddy bear. Stuff like this plays in a parent's head. You picture this being your own child.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
jgallandt said:
Mike,
Nor would I. I would cause him no harm, as long as they showed no interest in my kids. The more interest in my kids, the more protective I would become. Look at that little girl in Florida, taken from her bedroom. Forced to live in a closet. Raped. Molested. Abused. Then buried alive with her teddy bear. Stuff like this plays in a parent's head. You picture this being your own child.
how dreadful.

About a pedophile living near you. It was only by accident that we recently discovered that a pedophile, who had served time in prison ( and had apparently re-offended) lives in the road next to ours; whe moved to this house when our kids were 11 and 5 years old.

The point is, when our kids were that age, we kept an eye on them. Perhaps that is the problem now - the fact that parents are less concerned about their children going out alone ?
 

Nehustan

Well-Known Member
I know my approach seems extreme, but I think 'prevention is better than cure', and when that relates to prevention of somebody harming children over said childrens 'cure' from the trauma, I find it easy to make a choice. In nearly everything I am tolerant (tho' lack of reason oft' annoys me, far more in fact than an opposite 'opinion'), and I would be completely open and friendly to my new neighbour. Its like that old line that they role out in the movies when somebody threatens, person A 'Are you threatening me????' person B 'don't think of it as a threat, think of it as a promise...'

Remember that the presumption of innocence, and evidence of the contrary when it comes to guilt is a criteria for the judicial system, not for people in everyday life. So if I were to speak with my neighbour, I'd say 'sorry for judging you neighbour, but if you are over this desire, have it under control as it were, then you won't mind knowing that just like you I am prone to act on desire. You restrain your desires...and I'll restrain mine...we got a deal???'
 

Evenstar

The Wicked Christian
I agree michel, its sad to think parents just dont care, where their kids go.... its a case of just get from under my feet.
Sadly my son had a few friends that would visit.... be with us all day, they stayed for lunch, dinner.... did their parents not worry?​
Ah well life in todays world.
 
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