Is the Jesus in the Quran the same in the Bible?

[paarsurrey]

Is the Jesus in the Quran the same in the Bible?

Jesus of Quran is a real human person while Jesus of Bible is mythical.
Regards

 

[outhouse]

Is the Jesus in the Quran the same in the Bible?

Jesus of Quran is a real human person while Jesus of Bible is mythical.
Regards

Your factually false.

Nether are historical as written.

But one thing is factual, no one with credibility uses the koran for any research into the real jesus, because it is FACTUALLY historically worthless here.

How can you think a book written 600 years after his death can be accurate?

 

[Lyndon]

Your stated understanding of the Bible and Koran is mythical!! For your information, Mohammad had access to 500+ year old apocryphal gospels written at the same time roughly as the gospels in the Bible, and presumably just as accurate or inaccurate. For an atheist you sure get real upset when someone questions the verity of the Bible.

 

[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said: ↑
Is the Jesus in the Quran the same in the Bible?

Jesus of Quran is a real human person while Jesus of Bible is mythical.
Regards

Your factually false.
Nether are historical as written.
But one thing is factual, no one with credibility uses the koran for any research into the real jesus, because it is FACTUALLY historically worthless here.
How can you think a book written 600 years after his death can be accurate?

Do you think Bible is a good source of history? Please
Regards

 

[Muffled]

Definitely not. The only similarities are that Jesus is the Messiah, was born of Mary by way of a Virgin Birth, performed miracles and will return. Other than that, they're very different figures.

I believe I don't know how you figure.

 

[Muffled]

You can find information about the site and it's links to early Islam as an influence prior to prophethood below. the site was only found in the late 90s and academics is slow to release information to the masses. Easily overlooked by many.

Christmas in the Qur'än: the Qur'änic account of Jesus's nativity and Palestinian local tradition | Stephen Shoemaker - Academia.edu

I believe it reads like most academic postulations ie fantasy.

 

[Muffled]

paarsurrey said: ↑
Is the Jesus in the Quran the same in the Bible?

Jesus of Quran is a real human person while Jesus of Bible is mythical.
Regards

Do you think Bible is a good source of history? Please
Regards

I believe there is no evidence to support this view.

 

[Shad]

I believe it reads like most academic postulations ie fantasy.

Nope it is factual. Your opinion is irrelevant.

 

[outhouse]

Jesus of Quran is a real human person

one thing is factual, no one with credibility uses the koran for any research into the real jesus, because it is FACTUALLY historically worthless here.

How can you think a book written 600 years after his death can be accurate?


PROVIDE CRDIBLE SOURCES

 

[paarsurrey]

Today at 8:14 AM#144

one thing is factual, no one with credibility uses the koran for any research into the real jesus, because it is FACTUALLY historically worthless here.
How can you think a book written 600 years after his death can be accurate?
PROVIDE CRDIBLE SOURCES

Do you think Bible is a good source of history? Please
Regards

 

[outhouse]

Today at 8:14 AM#144


Do you think Bible is a good source of history? Please
Regards

It can be for certain moments in time once one gets past the mythology.

As far as jesus goes It is not accurate because there were no eyewitnesses who wrote anything, but it was written within eyewitnesses lifetime.

Because it is not accurate does not mean we cannot extract some historical moments from the text.

There is valuable history in its pages when examined by historians.


Unlike the koran that is 100% historically worthless for any study of Jesus or Israelite history.


The bible has possibilities. The koran has none what so ever.

 

[outhouse]

Nope it is factual. Your opinion is irrelevant.

You are 100% correct.

His "muffled" faith has nothing to do with any history ay any time.

 

[paarsurrey]

It can be for certain moments in time once one gets past the mythology.
As far as jesus goes It is not accurate because there were no eyewitnesses who wrote anything, but it was written within eyewitnesses lifetime.
Because it is not accurate does not mean we cannot extract some historical moments from the text.
There is valuable history in its pages when examined by historians.
Unlike the koran that is 100% historically worthless for any study of Jesus or Israelite history.
The bible has possibilities. The koran has none what so ever.

Please quote from "Reliable Historical Sources" where Bible has been mentioned as a reliable source of history.
Don't worry about Quran, Quran does not claim to be a text book of history. Right?
Bible claims it ﺃﺧﺒﺎﺭ ﺍﻷﻳﺎﻡ 1 Chronicles or tawarikh in Urdu, but one does not testify to its claim. Right?
Regards

 

[outhouse]

, Quran does not claim to be a text book of history. Right?

Then why do you promote it as history when it is historically worthless for any aspect on Jesus the man????

 

[outhouse]

Please quote from "Reliable Historical Sources" where Bible has been mentioned as a reliable source of history.

Scholars searching for REAL history do factually use the bible. No one at all uses the koran for any aspect of research into Jesus.

Like many genuinely historical figures of antiquity, all records of his historicity come from one or more generations after his death, the earliest source being that found in the Epistles of Paul dated to AD 59, who discusses his crucifixion

The historicity of Jesus is distinct from the related study of the historical Jesus, which refers to scholarly reconstructions of the life of Jesus, based primarily on critical analysis of the gospel texts


You notice how it says NOTHING about the koran being used? because its worthless historically speaking on jesus.

 

[Lyndon]

More christian proseletizing, consider the source!!!

 

[paarsurrey]

Then why do you promote it as history when it is historically worthless for any aspect on Jesus the man????

I never present Quran as a text book of history. Please quote from me if I said so.
Quran is 100% correct, while history is just a toddler.
Regards

 

[outhouse]

I never present Quran as a text book of history. Please quote from me if I said so.

Quran is 100% correct,

Yes you just did

Claiming it is 100% correct when it factually is not

IS claiming it is historically accurate.

 

[paarsurrey]

Then why do you promote it as history when it is historically worthless for any aspect on Jesus the man????

Does History claim to record all the events happened in the past in the world since inception or just happening now? It does not, and cannot.
So, in relative terms to Revelation, which is 100% correct, the history cannot and must not be trusted. As to purpose of a thing , it (history) has no sources to ascertain and hence is most untrustworthy if a historian wants to tell the purpose.
Regards

 

[outhouse]

Does History claim to record all the events happened in the past in the world since inception or just happening now? It does not, and cannot.
So, in relative terms to Revelation, which is 100% correct, the history cannot and must not be trusted. As to purpose of a thing , it (history) has no sources to ascertain and hence is most untrustworthy if a historian wants to tell the purpose.
Regards

apologetic rhetoric of no value or credibility, it is a common fallacy known as a red herring

Because this is reality below

The historicity of Jesus is distinct from the related study of the historical Jesus, which refers to scholarly reconstructions of the life of Jesus, based primarily on critical analysis of the gospel texts


Notice how it does not say it uses the koran? the koran has no credibility here so they do not use it ever!, but the gospels and paul factually do have some credibility