paarsurrey
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We are not in a philosophy forum.
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
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rosends
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I forgot -- theology is a function of hard science. Thanks.
paarsurrey
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That is why so many scientists belong/ed to Judaism, after all they are religious and don't deny Yahweh. Doesn't one agree?
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rosends
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Non sequitur much?
paarsurrey
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Please use words in easy English.
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paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 64: Al-Taghabun [1]
[64:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[64:2]Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth glorifies Allah; His is the kingdom and His the praise, and He has power over all things.
[64:3]It is He Who has created you, butsomeof you are disbelievers andsomeof you are believers; and Allah sees what you do.
[64:4]He created the heavens and the earth with truth, and He shaped you and made your shapes beautiful, and to Him is theultimatereturn.
[64:5]He knows whatever is in the heavens and the earth, and He knows what you conceal and what you disclose; and Allah knows full wellallthat is in the breasts.
[64:6]Has not the news reached you of those who disbelieved before? So they tasted the evil consequences of their conduct, and they had a painful punishment.
[64:7]That was because their Messengers came to them with manifest Signs, but they said, ‘Shall mortals guide us?’ So they disbelieved and turned away, but Allah had never any needof them; and Allah is Self- Sufficient, Worthy of all praise.
[64:8]Those who disbelieve assert that they will not be raised up. Say, ‘Yea, by my Lord, you shall surely be raised up; then shall you surely be informed of what you did. And that is easy for Allah.’
[64:9]Believe, therefore, in Allah and His Messenger, and in the Light which We have sent down. And Allah is Well-Aware of all that you do.
[64:10]The day when He shall gather you, on the Day of Gathering, that will be the day of mutual lossand gain. And whoso believes in Allah and does good deeds — He will remove from them the evilconsequencesof their deeds and He will make them enter Gardens through which streams flow, to abide therein for ever. That is the supreme triumph.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=64
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 64: Al-Taghabun [1]
[64:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[64:2]Whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth glorifies Allah; His is the kingdom and His the praise, and He has power over all things.
[64:3]It is He Who has created you, butsomeof you are disbelievers andsomeof you are believers; and Allah sees what you do.
[64:4]He created the heavens and the earth with truth, and He shaped you and made your shapes beautiful, and to Him is theultimatereturn.
[64:5]He knows whatever is in the heavens and the earth, and He knows what you conceal and what you disclose; and Allah knows full wellallthat is in the breasts.
[64:6]Has not the news reached you of those who disbelieved before? So they tasted the evil consequences of their conduct, and they had a painful punishment.
[64:7]That was because their Messengers came to them with manifest Signs, but they said, ‘Shall mortals guide us?’ So they disbelieved and turned away, but Allah had never any needof them; and Allah is Self- Sufficient, Worthy of all praise.
[64:8]Those who disbelieve assert that they will not be raised up. Say, ‘Yea, by my Lord, you shall surely be raised up; then shall you surely be informed of what you did. And that is easy for Allah.’
[64:9]Believe, therefore, in Allah and His Messenger, and in the Light which We have sent down. And Allah is Well-Aware of all that you do.
[64:10]The day when He shall gather you, on the Day of Gathering, that will be the day of mutual lossand gain. And whoso believes in Allah and does good deeds — He will remove from them the evilconsequencesof their deeds and He will make them enter Gardens through which streams flow, to abide therein for ever. That is the supreme triumph.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=64
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
Or, Heaven forbid, you could type 'non sequitur' into a search engine or look it up in a dictionary and you'd find out what it means.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Please write your own understanding of the word/term not from a lexicon.
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gnostic
The Lost One
You need a dictionary, because your grasp of some English words are painfully pitiful.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
People have own understanding of words and terms, so it becomes easier to know it for giving a reply.
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paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 64: Al-Taghabun [2]
[64:11]Butas tothose who disbelieve and reject Our Signs, these shall be the inmates of the Fire, wherein they shall abide; and an evil destination it is!
[64:12]There befalls not any affliction but by the leave of Allah. And whosoever believes in Allah — He guides his heartaright. And Allah knows all things full well.
[64:13]And obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then Our Messenger is responsible only for the clear conveyingof the Message.
[64:14]Allah! there is no God but He; so in Allah let the believers put their trust.
[64:15]O ye who believe! surely among your wives and your children aresome that are reallyyour enemies, so beware of them. And if you overlook and forgive and pardon, then surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
[64:16]Verily, your wealth and your children are a trial; but with Allah is an immense reward.
[64:17]So fear Allah as best you can, and listen, and obey, and spendin His cause; it will be good for yourselves. And whoso is rid of the covetousness of his own soul — it is such who shall be successful.
[64:18]If you lend to Allah a good loan, He will multiply it for you, and will forgive you; and Allah is Most Appreciating, Forbearing,
[64:19]The Knower of the unseen and the seen, the Mighty, the Wise.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=64&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 64: Al-Taghabun [2]
[64:11]Butas tothose who disbelieve and reject Our Signs, these shall be the inmates of the Fire, wherein they shall abide; and an evil destination it is!
[64:12]There befalls not any affliction but by the leave of Allah. And whosoever believes in Allah — He guides his heartaright. And Allah knows all things full well.
[64:13]And obey Allah and obey the Messenger. But if you turn away, then Our Messenger is responsible only for the clear conveyingof the Message.
[64:14]Allah! there is no God but He; so in Allah let the believers put their trust.
[64:15]O ye who believe! surely among your wives and your children aresome that are reallyyour enemies, so beware of them. And if you overlook and forgive and pardon, then surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
[64:16]Verily, your wealth and your children are a trial; but with Allah is an immense reward.
[64:17]So fear Allah as best you can, and listen, and obey, and spendin His cause; it will be good for yourselves. And whoso is rid of the covetousness of his own soul — it is such who shall be successful.
[64:18]If you lend to Allah a good loan, He will multiply it for you, and will forgive you; and Allah is Most Appreciating, Forbearing,
[64:19]The Knower of the unseen and the seen, the Mighty, the Wise.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=64&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
rosends said: ↑
I forgot -- theology is a function of hard science. Thanks.
paarsurrey said: ↑
That is why so many scientists belong/ed to Judaism, after all they are religious and don't deny Yahweh. Doesn't one agree?
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=non+sequitur
I think it follows from one's first expression mentioned above. Right?
Anybody,please.
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I forgot -- theology is a function of hard science. Thanks.
paarsurrey said: ↑
That is why so many scientists belong/ed to Judaism, after all they are religious and don't deny Yahweh. Doesn't one agree?
I find following:
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=non+sequitur
I think it follows from one's first expression mentioned above. Right?
Anybody,please.
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 63: Al-Munafiqun [1]
[63:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[63:2]When the hypocrites come to thee, they say, ‘We bear witness that thou art indeed the Messenger of Allah.’ And Allah knows that thou art indeed His Messenger, but Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are surely liars.
[63:3]They have made their oaths a shield; thus they turnmenaway from the way of Allah. Evil surely is that which they have been doing.
[63:4]That is because theyfirstbelieved, then disbelieved. So a seal was set upon their hearts andconsequentlythey understand not.
[63:5]And when thou seest them, their figures please thee; and if they speak, thou listenest to their speech.They areas though they wereblocks ofwood propped up. They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. Allah’s curse be upon them! How are they being turned away!
[63:6]And when it is said to them, ‘Come, that the Messenger of Allah may ask forgiveness for you,’ they turn their heads aside, and thou seest them keeping back while they are full of pride.
[63:7]It is equal to them whether thou ask forgiveness for them or ask not forgiveness for them, Allah will never forgive them. Surely Allah guides not the rebellious people.
[63:8]They it is who say, ‘Spend not on those who are with the Messenger of Allah that they may disperseand leave him;’ while to Allah belong the treasures of the heavens and the earth; but the hypocrites understand not.
[63:9]They say, ‘If we return to Medina, the one most honourable will surely drive out therefrom the one most mean;’ whiletruehonour belongs to Allah and to His Messenger and the believers; but the hypocrites know not.
[63:10]O ye who believe! let not your wealth and your children divert you from the remembrance of Allah. And whoever does so — it is they who are the losers.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=63
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 63: Al-Munafiqun [1]
[63:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[63:2]When the hypocrites come to thee, they say, ‘We bear witness that thou art indeed the Messenger of Allah.’ And Allah knows that thou art indeed His Messenger, but Allah bears witness that the hypocrites are surely liars.
[63:3]They have made their oaths a shield; thus they turnmenaway from the way of Allah. Evil surely is that which they have been doing.
[63:4]That is because theyfirstbelieved, then disbelieved. So a seal was set upon their hearts andconsequentlythey understand not.
[63:5]And when thou seest them, their figures please thee; and if they speak, thou listenest to their speech.They areas though they wereblocks ofwood propped up. They think that every cry is against them. They are the enemy, so beware of them. Allah’s curse be upon them! How are they being turned away!
[63:6]And when it is said to them, ‘Come, that the Messenger of Allah may ask forgiveness for you,’ they turn their heads aside, and thou seest them keeping back while they are full of pride.
[63:7]It is equal to them whether thou ask forgiveness for them or ask not forgiveness for them, Allah will never forgive them. Surely Allah guides not the rebellious people.
[63:8]They it is who say, ‘Spend not on those who are with the Messenger of Allah that they may disperseand leave him;’ while to Allah belong the treasures of the heavens and the earth; but the hypocrites understand not.
[63:9]They say, ‘If we return to Medina, the one most honourable will surely drive out therefrom the one most mean;’ whiletruehonour belongs to Allah and to His Messenger and the believers; but the hypocrites know not.
[63:10]O ye who believe! let not your wealth and your children divert you from the remembrance of Allah. And whoever does so — it is they who are the losers.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=63
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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Jabar
“Strive always to excel in virtue and truth.”
There are no errors in the Quran. It is a divine revelation. I challenge you all to pick out one mistake. If you follow the Bible, the new testament then you are brainwashed because it clearly has many errors. One includes: "Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing, that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth; (including) the locust . . . the beetle . . . and the grasshopper after his kind" (Leviticus 11:21,22).
Insects have 6 legs, this is an idiotic error.
Insects have 6 legs, this is an idiotic error.
rosends
Well-Known Member
Wow you are such an expert! You have pointed out a clear error which hasn't been dealt with by people who actually read Hebrew!
Here are some other experts who like pointing out such clear errors. You should hang out with them:
http://www.billionbibles.org/sharia/errors-in-quran.html
rosends
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Right back at you.