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Try to prove to me your religion.

Muffled

Jesus in me
paarsurrey said:
Please quote from Jesus mentioned in Christian-NT-Gospels, Torah is a Jewish scriptures and Jews don't believe Christian-NT-Gospels, they are under a different covenant and different concepts.
Regards

God addressed the human beings in Quran;do you believe in Quran? Please
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I believe the Qu'ran is the word of God. I also believe that most Muslims don't understand what it says but I do because I have the Paraclete to guide my understanding.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I believe the Qu'ran is the word of God. I also believe that most Muslims don't understand what it says but I do because I have the Paraclete to guide my understanding.
Muhammad himself is the Paraclete that was to come as Jesus also told the people.
Regards
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
Muffled said:
I believe the Qu'ran is the word of God. I also believe that most Muslims don't understand what it says but I do because I have the Paraclete to guide my understanding.

paarsurrey said:
Muhammad himself is the Paraclete that was to come as Jesus also told the people.
Regards
I believe there is not an iota of evidence to even suggest that.
Please quote from Jesus that Jesus did not mean Muhammad from the title/name Paraclete.
Regards
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Muffled said:
I believe the Qu'ran is the word of God. I also believe that most Muslims don't understand what it says but I do because I have the Paraclete to guide my understanding.

paarsurrey said:
Muhammad himself is the Paraclete that was to come as Jesus also told the people.
Regards

Please quote from Jesus that Jesus did not mean Muhammad from the title/name Paraclete.
Regards

John 14:17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.

I believe if Mohammed was the Spirit of truth he should have said so but he did not but Jesus did:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mohammed was not known by the disciples but Jesus was.
 

paarsurrey

Veteran Member
I believe the Qu'ran is the word of God. I also believe that most Muslims don't understand what it says but I do because I have the Paraclete to guide my understanding.
Thanks for your above belief.
Quran, the word of G-d says:
[61:7] And remember when Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, surely I am Allah’s Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me. His name will be Ahmad.’ And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, ‘This is clear enchantment.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=61&verse=0
When and where Jesus told the above? Please
Regards
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Thanks for your above belief.
Quran, the word of G-d says:
[61:7] And remember when Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, surely I am Allah’s Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me. His name will be Ahmad.’ And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, ‘This is clear enchantment.’
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=61&verse=0
When and where Jesus told the above? Please
Regards

I believe this is not recorded in the Bible so one wold expect either of two things, 1. Mohammed is putting words in the mouth of God to make himself look good or 2. Jesus who being God knows the future and knew that Mohammed would come and said so but for some reason it was never recorded.

While both are reasonable, I prefer the latter and that Mohammed was faithful to his calling.
 

C-Faith

Member
John 14:17 even the Spirit of truth: whom the world cannot receive; for it beholdeth him not, neither knoweth him: ye know him; for he abideth with you, and shall be in you.

I believe if Mohammed was the Spirit of truth he should have said so but he did not but Jesus did:
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life: no one cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Mohammed was not known by the disciples but Jesus was.
Muhammad himself is the Paraclete that was to come as Jesus also told the people.
Regards

The Koran is not the word of God.........One who doesn't believe in The Son is lost (John 3: 16)
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The Koran is not the word of God.........One who doesn't believe in The Son is lost (John 3: 16)

I believe that is illogical thinking. Your premise is wrong so your conclusion is wrong. The premise is that God does not speak to the lost but history has shown many times over that He does. Therefore God can speak to Mohammed even though he is lost and even more likely because he is lost and needs a salvation he will accept.
 

C-Faith

Member
I believe that is illogical thinking. Your premise is wrong so your conclusion is wrong. The premise is that God does not speak to the lost but history has shown many times over that He does. Therefore God can speak to Mohammed even though he is lost and even more likely because he is lost and needs a salvation he will accept.

Let's remember the Koran written AFTER the bible, and writes about the bible..........not the other way around. Mohammed is deceased and awaiting judgment like all of us, by Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5: 10-11)
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Let's remember the Koran written AFTER the bible, and writes about the bible..........not the other way around. Mohammed is deceased and awaiting judgment like all of us, by Jesus Christ (2 Corinthians 5: 10-11)

I believe that is irrelevant as to whether the Qu'ran is the Word of God.

I believe he didn't have to wait for judgement after he died. However I believe in re-incarnation so he probably has had many lives since his death.

I believe Paul is referring to the final judgement that John talks about in Rev 20 and I wouldn't make bets that he will be there.
 

-Peacemaker-

.45 Cal
Please try to prove to me your religion is true.
On some level it's a heart issue. You can be given truth but your heart has to be Ina place where it's able to accept it. So many of our secular humanist friends think they're guided by reason and intellect above all else and put that the ideal way to live. Is argue that they worship themselves and their own limited understanding of the world above all else. I would also encourage people to be open to the reality that maybe truth about the universe and its origins is a little mind blowing and requires us to not always lean on our own understanding
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
My religion is found within me, its mine, and no one else's, now to prove that right or wrong doesn't interest me the least, because its mine, and no one else's, so there.
 
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