IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Yes, they were. Harvesting means picking the grain, and that is exactly what they did.
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WHERE IS THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAYS GOD'S 4th COMMANDMENT IS ABOLISHED?
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Except that you don't.
walt
Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
2 Thessalonians 1:8-10 also agrees with your scriptures.
3rdAngel
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Thanks Walt great scriptures. I do not understand why people can think they are practicing genuine saving faith by believing but not doing what Gods Word says. That thinking not only does not make any sense but is not biblical and as James says is the dead faith of devils in James 2:15-26
3rdAngel
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Sorry I do not believe you. I prefer what the scriptures teach. Not the teachings and traditions of men that Messiah Jesus says strain at the gnat to swallow a camel
3rdAngel
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Sorry I do not believe you and will leave that between you and God to work out. I have already posted scripture that is Gods Words not my words so your argument is with God not me whose words you do not believe as you choose to side with the teachings and traditions of men over the Words of God.
walt
Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
Here's another I don't understand why people hardly ever talk about?
The last thing Jesus said before he ascended to heaven:
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.” --Matt. 28:19-20 NIV
And Romans 2:8, Hebrews 5:9
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Yes, this is your oft repeated mantra whenever you get backed into a corner. The sun shines. Sorry I do not believe you.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
So now you claim to be God? I'm not surprised. My argument is absolutely with YOU and YOUR INTERPRETATION.
3rdAngel
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You are deflecting again. Perhaps its time to leave you with your unbelief in God and His Words and leave you awaiting for your Messiah that has already come who you deny. I have already posted scripture that is Gods Words not my words in disagreement with your words that are not Gods so your argument is with God not me whose words you do not believe as you choose to side with the teachings and traditions of men over the Words of God just like your fathers did who denied and killed their own Messiah." We will of course agree to disagree.
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3rdAngel
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So now you are bearing false witness? I will leave that between you and God to work through as well.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
When you claim that YOUR INTERPRETATION is the voice of God, that is blasphemous. It makes you out to be god.
walt
Jesus is King & Mighty God Isa.9:6-7; Lk.1:32-33
There is another way of reasoning that is also scriptural, but my feelings on it is this: one person has 10 scriptures to prove their way of reasoning and the other person has 10 scriptures to prove their way of reasoning, So what is the solution pick one side? No!
Draw a new conclusion that considers each and every single scripture 100% truth!
Make a conclusion based on all 20 scriptures, instead of only 10 scriptures. This is not an easy task, but it can be done!
After you conquer this challenge the first time, it will be a lot easier the next time! I am no authority, I just know it works!
3rdAngel
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Bearing false witness again? Where did I claim my interpretation of the scriptures is the voice of God. Please post me the link? If I never made those claims why are you pretending that is what I said? Again I will leave that between you and God to work through.
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3rdAngel
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Agreed Walt, that is the approach I also believe in and take with my personal bible studies. Looking at all scripture on subject matter and contexts are very important. Scripture does not contradict scripture. If anyone finds their interpretation of the scriptures is in contradiction to other scriptures in the bible that is a red flag that perhaps their interpretation is in error. That said just because someone might have 10 scriptures and another 10 scriptures saying something different does not mean that there is not a truthful interpretation of the scriptures and false interpretation of the scriptures. According to the scriptures in Isaiah 55:8-9 we cannot understand Gods Word if God is not our personal guide and teacher. This is why it was not the learned Scribes and Pharisees that knew the truth of Gods Word in the time of Jesus but the humble unlearned fisherman that asked God to know His Words. God promises all those who want to know the truth of His Word that if they will seek Him with all of their hearts and believe and follow His Words that they will know the truth and the truth will make them free (see Jeremiah 29:13; John 8:31-36; John 7:17; John 14:26 and John 16:13). Thanks for the constructive posts Walt.
God bless
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
3rdAngel
Well-Known Member
So that is a no then? You are unable to provide me with any link with me saying as you claim here.....
Where did I say my interpretation is the voice of God? Again, if I did not say any such thing why are you pretending that I did? That is bearing false witness is it not which is sin according to the scriptures (see Exodus 20:16; compare James 2:10-11 and 1 John 3:4). Again, I will leave that between you and God to work through and we will agree to disagree. Lets also put in some context. When I said to you "Your argument is with God not me" This was in context to the scriptures I provided to you that were in disagreement with your words that you provided unsupported by scripture.
You take care now.
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You are siezing on a weak definition to try to prove that you're right. You aren't. The Pharisees criticized Jesus because His disciples were picking a few grains and eating them, which in their minds was violating the Sabbath. They were legalistic and had to be taught by Jesus.
You should learn the lesson that He taught them.
Why are you siezing on one word and missing the point? There is only one answer: you refuse to accept the clear point made by Jesus that the Pharisees like you, refuse to acknowledge the truth about the sabbath.
"harvest" implies mass reaping at a certain time of year. The disciples were not doing that. They were picking individual heads of grain.
What would you think if I said "I am going to harvest an apple" then went to the tree and picked just one?
"harvest" implies mass reaping at a certain time of year. The disciples were not doing that. They were picking individual heads of grain.
What would you think if I said "I am going to harvest an apple" then went to the tree and picked just one?
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Then you're operating out of bigotry since it is virtually impossible to prove beyond any shadow of doubt that the God you believe in must be the only moral and logical belief dealing with God.