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  1. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    OK! Whatever you say.
  2. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    I am not assuming anything. I reported, time and again, on what some scientists have discovered, what they have written in scientific books, and what they have concluded. I studied the material, I found it well researched, well presented and credible, and I am presenting it on this forum as a...
  3. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Science did not stop in 1859 either. I studied The Origin of Species in college; study The Anthropic Cosmological Principle and then we can have an educated discussion.
  4. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    OK, whatever you say.
  5. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    OK, whatever you say.:yes:
  6. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    I could do the same and support the ACP and ID with articles on the internet. Instead, I take the time and summarize the arguments. Please do the same and summarize the arguments of the opposition so we can have a discussion at the same level.
  7. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    They say that it was out of necessity; that in order for a Universe that could support life and for evolution to develop human beings the constants had to be exactly what they are; they explain that any other value, even to the smallest degree, would have prevented the Universe from forming...
  8. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Anyone who belittles and dismisses these sources without having studied them is prejudiced and closed-minded. You and Painted Wolf are now in that company.
  9. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    I don't quit with you because my ideas are challenged - notice I am still conversing with others - I quit because you belittle and dismiss my books without reading them. Read them, then we talk Adios.
  10. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    A discovery that impressed me greatly as evidence of design is the nature of the constants of physics. These are pure numbers whose just-so values - some very large as the strong force, some very small as the gravitational force - make the Universe what and as it is. There is general agreement...
  11. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Your opinion of The Anthropic Cosmological Principle as a pop-sci book without having studied it tells me more about you than I wish to know. Thus, the non-discussion between us has come to a skreeching halt. Adios.
  12. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    It is also the opinion/conclusion of (only) some scientists that the Universe and life can be explained without the need for a designer. However, in view of the nature of the empirical evidence of the new discoveries I listed, an increasing number of scientists are coming to believe that these...
  13. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    These points I already covered. If you don't read my posts I see no reason for further discussion. It makes me wonder, however, what the purpose of this thread is if scientific evidence supporting ID is rejected out of hand.
  14. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Again, it's NOT my subjective opinion; it's a scientific opinion I agree with and extensive evidence is provided in scientific books, for some of which I provided titles and quotes.
  15. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    The position I'm advancing and have from the beginning is that the following recent discoveries in the natural sciences are scientific evidence supporting intelligent design, the title of this thread. To wit: The Constants of Nature The Anthopic Cosmological Principle The Genetic Code The...
  16. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    You are entitled to your unsubstantiated opinion but they claim otherwise and go to great lenghts to prove it. You would give your opinion credibility if you study the books and disprove the evidence.
  17. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    It's NOT MY assumption; it's the claim of the proponents who made the discoveries and describe them and their meaning in scientific books. You have not studied the books yet reject the notion. Since your mind is closed this will be my last post to you on this thread.
  18. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    I reported on the discoveries. If you don't like what they say and how they say it address the authors, not me. See you on another thread.
  19. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    I already have. Read my posts.
  20. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Precisely, so some proponents of SAP - notably Nobel-Prize winner John A. Wheeler - have taken the reasoning to its logical conclusion and contend that there must be an Ultimate Observer who is responsible for coordinating the separate onservations of the lesser observers and is thus responsible...
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