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  1. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Biologists know what life needs and that is why they say that all of life needs are fully satisfied by just-so nature of its parts, whether physical, chemical, or biochemical. Respiration is, of course, a key part. Hold your breath for some minutes and experience first-hand whether you need...
  2. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Mere descriptions? Throw yourself out of an airplane without a parachute and experience first hand the consequence of the law of gravity.:eek: May you land unscathed and give a description of its reality.
  3. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    The problem is yours because you don't distinguish between the messenger and the message. I am just a messenger. The message, based on recent discoveries in the natural sciences, is that the Universe is designed to harbor life and the goal of life is to evolve homo sapiens; that we are not here...
  4. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    I agree that it's very anthropocentric but that is what is asserted by those who advocate the Anthropic Principle as does Denton: "...science has revealed a universe stamped in every corner, riven in every tiny detail, with an overwhelmingly and all pervasive biocentric and anthropocentric...
  5. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    natural: existing in or formed by nature (opposed to artificial ): a natural bridge. A law exists in Nature, of course. However, if it is also "formed" by Nature then Nature becomes the designer of her own laws; and if she can design/form her own laws she must be a real person with individual...
  6. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Good question. As strange as it may seem, however, scientists assert that a designer had no choice but to design everything precisely "as is" or there would not be a Universe with life; that s/he was constrained by the very requirement of the objective: life on a planet that would evolve into...
  7. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Of course I agree but the statement begs the question: Where did natural laws come from? Did Nature make her own laws? When we look at a law in the human arena we say it was made/passed by people/legislators. Imo, the same line of reasoning applies to natural laws: Unless Nature made her own...
  8. sandor606

    Scientific Evidence Supporting Intelligent Design

    Here are two recent discoveries as food for discussion: From cosmology - The constants of Nature "The sizes of stars and planets, and even people, are neither random nor the result of any Drawinian selection process from a myriad possibilities. Those and other gross features of the Universe...
  9. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    I did not try to deceive anyone; in everything I wrote I was utterly sincere: that is the way of my Avatar. Carelessly, I took the info on the paper at face value and I was wrong. I accept my mistake. However, if you reject the other proof for one mistake you are throwing away the baby with the...
  10. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    Whatever. Good bye.
  11. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    You re-responded to what? I looked up re-respond in the dictionary but could not find it. Anyway, I am leaving the forum at least for a while so this is my last post to you.
  12. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    I think we have come to an impasse so this is my last post to you. Thank you for the stimulating discussion.
  13. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    www.uvm.edu/~jdavison/ontogeny.html I am leaving the forum - at least for a while - so this is my last post to you for now.
  14. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    Go to my first post and read the excerpts that summarize the my point. I am surprised you missed it.
  15. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    Philosophy of science is the philosophy implied in the science. Modern science implies a designer.
  16. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    I did that in my first post. Read it.
  17. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    There is no experimental evidence of Darwinian evolution either yet it's scientific dogma. If you consider books that, except for the conclusion, could be textbooks in universities as pop-sci then I see no reason to continue this discussion.
  18. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    Yes. Perfect.
  19. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    Obviously you did NOT read the books. Read the books then we talk. Bye.
  20. sandor606

    Does DNA prove intelligent design?

    These scientists did not do the research and discover facts to prove ID; however, given the new facts, if they were to be intellectually honest they had to conclude that what they had discovered must have been designed. From quantum physics "the role of the observer); from cosmology "the...
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