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  1. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    You're getting closer, much better. Thinking Objectively means considering something in any state or condition. Relativity would be that "thing" in relation to another observer, in other words, what is the same for everyone. By posing an "objective" question, you take one of those...
  2. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    What you describe is "relativity" not objectivity. Objectivity is accepting that the duck can be dry, wet, loud, quiet, in flight, not in flight, alive, dead, white or green because the duck is the idea of a duck, and that duck can be in any number of states and meet any number of conditions...
  3. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

  4. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    For example, I would have to agree that removing christianity from the southern states of the US would be beneficial, I live in the bible belt, but NOT necessary or even preferrable at this point in time. I say this, because this is in the identity of most Southerners. Without the church to...
  5. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    That's why I want to get agnostic atheists to think more creatively. I guess you could say spark some emotion. I think we've got alot to say, but it's stifled by the attitude that a position of non-absolution is the same as no opinion. And, as you said, agnostics are often reluctant to voice...
  6. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

  7. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    No, unbiased means not taking one side or another, not the ability to take all sides. Has anyone in this forum ever taken a creative writing class? Whether the topic is posed objectively or not is irrelevant anyway. Willamena seems to enjoy derailing a conversation far more than adding...
  8. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    Objectivity is all points of view. No point of view is called IGNORANCE
  9. Atheologian

    Is atheism incompatible with an organized movement?

    Atheism is the absence of belief in a deity. So, how would an atheist religion work? Is the disbelief in God enough to warrant an atheist "church"? Isn't this like saying, "I don't believe in ghosts, so I'll go investigate their non-existance? Or is this just a way to organize like minds and...
  10. Atheologian

    No RELIGION = No MORALS?

    We got way off base. I have certain hang ups about recognizing the Bible as a source or morals, and I can't avoid that, but that's not the issue. Would the absense of religion have negative effects on society as a whole, is an even better way to pose the question.
  11. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    I think his opinion, if I remember right, was much like our own.
  12. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    I'm glad you brought that up, because I also make a distinction here. In a discussion of whether god exists, I am agnostic. As far as my belief in God, I am atheist. This means that while I do not "believe" god exists, I can accept that I can not prove it, and therefore the possibility can not...
  13. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    careful quoting half statements out of context. That's what propogandists do. People will accuse me of being a closet theist :run:
  14. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I think that's an important point. Even for the religious, a sense of what is good for humanity as a whole should take precedence over what is good for the church, or religion as a whole. I don't think I am overstepping any boundaries there.
  15. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    that's what an objective question does. It presents a question from one or more points of view, and asks you to argue it out logically. Being "objective" means being able to consider other points of view and weigh them equally against your own. Posing an objective question requires you to take...
  16. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    I need to say, before anyone starts flaming, that I am not asking for proof or disproof of God, or suggesting one way or another on his existance/non-existance. It's an objective question, posed hypothetically.
  17. Atheologian

    Should Atheists Shut Up about God, since they don't believe in God?

    lol, but, what argument would you have for someone that says, since you don't believe in their imaginary friend, you can't talk about him? Also, when does his belief, if ever, encroach on your personal liberty, freedom, happiness, etc. For example, what if he believed, by divine right, he...
  18. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    SO, like I said, What kind of things could someone not taking either position add to a discussion of God's existance/nonexistance? We have the fact that either side can be represented with more clarity by a third party that can handle both assumptions equally. We also have the fact that...
  19. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    this is MY position, and, as I said, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the discussion.
  20. Atheologian

    Should Agnostics shut up, since they don't know?

    Once again, you havent even read the posts, your just flaming. You don't know that I'm not agnostic. In fact you don't even apparently understand the topic. What's tiresome is trying to avoid having to justify a position I never even took. I hate to say you're an idiot, but I actually did...
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