Here's the same question, posed in a way as to not offend the oversensitive:
Are agnostics helpful in a discussion of God?
MY position, not that I was including it in the topic, is that agnostic is not just a neutral position that holds no merit, but a distinct way of saying, "We weigh the...
What's the spirit of discussion and debate come to when you can't pose a controversial question? Who says any of these positions are mine? Who says I am not actually a worshipper of John Frum, of the cargo cults? My position does not matter, I only posed the question in a way to avoid warming up...
Not at all. The terminology is simply to identify one or more positions in a debate. These help to group like ideas and theories, and make the flow of conversation easier.
Positions of opinion are exactly what FEUL A DEBATE.
This is another good point, because in ANY discussion, unless both sides can be assumed, the discussion goes nowhere.
Though, I never liked the atom example. The atom is an entirely different entity than was first suspected. The nature of the atom is nowhere close to what we imagined, before...
I also think, that since we can't prove a discussion of existance either way, the agnostic should be the moderator, or the litmus test even, to the arguments of either side.
you assume way too much.
I never said, anywhere in THIS thread, that I wasn't agnostic. My personal beliefs are NOT what I am basing this discussion on.
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This is what I was getting at. Agnostics can offer arguments for both sides, and keep a debate flowing neutrally. So, is it reasonable to conclude that without agnostics, we could not have a conducive debate?
You were directing the statement at me, just admit it. You don't have to deny it, it's ok. But, you still haven't answered the question. What kind of things could an agnostic offer, in a theistic debate. The obvious answer has yet to surface....
sorry, it actually has, i didn't see last few posts.
When did I say THAT was MY position? It's a question. Have NONE of you EVER taken a creative writing course?
I'd find that hard to believe.
You aren't suggesting that you really have NO opinion are you? That was a gross oversimplification with the intention of surfacing the opinions that DO...
I can pose a question in a manner meant to inspire emotion, without necessarily taking any position, one way or another. You could call that position, agnostic. I am curious as to what sort of opinions agnostics DO have on god, assuming the absence of an opinion is not a valid opinion. Aside...
That's a shabby lie, too. You know very well you meant it as an insult. Don't back out of it now.
You suggested anyone having a theistic debate, that wonders what an agnostic has to say, is pompous and deluded.
I'll start by saying I have heard this argument over and over, and, of course they do. The argument of most devout people is that we can't comprehend, because we don't believe, but that is not true. It's easy to forget that many atheists were once religious, i think, and that we know what...
lmao...
The response I got for posing this topic gave me an idea for another topic. I can relate to this one, because I am an atheist. It's,
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/religious-debates/86820-should-atheists-shut-up-about-god.html#post1719026