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  1. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    I do understand. Natural selection does not occur without some form of mutation being present. Whether the mutation is neutral, beneficial or deleterious, there is always mutation present. Your argument rests on this point and until you can show how mutation isn't present in biological evolution...
  2. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    I disagree, The process of natural selection may not have to be acting on a mutation but there is always mutation when genetic material is transfered through procreation.
  3. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    No we don't. Mutation is involved in it too. Or do you seriously expect me to believe that we get great danes and minuature poodles without any mutation occuring? They are by definition mutations of their wolf ancestors. You are wrong. Mutation occurs everytime a new dog or any organism is...
  4. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    Great stuff, but what are you trying to imply? Are you saying that microevolution doesn't use mutation as a mechanism? If you are then why doesn't anybody else say this?
  5. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    Well that's settled then, I wasn't trying to imply that it was. My apologies if that is what came accross in my reply. okay, so what is your point? :confused:
  6. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    Yes, I didn't have a clue. Fairly obvious considering my answer "the who the what now?' or is reading comprehension something you have trouble with? However I'll say it again, you do know that you are a mutant don't you? Every organism is, you do know this don't you? There is no distinction...
  7. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    I'm sorry, which part of what I have said in this thread runs counter to what science defines as 'Evolution'? Please point out my error to me. Where have I been arguing againts scientific facts? I can't make a distinction between micro/macro because there is none.
  8. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    What creationists define as microevolution is irelevant to the discussion at hand and has nothing to do with science. The distinction between macro/micro is a fabrication of creationism/ID.
  9. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    No point continuing since you don't have a point. Nope, what you said still doesn't make sense. How wonderfully patronising. Thanks, but I think I know enough to know that it is you who needs a scientist to explain evolution to them.
  10. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    From the first link you provided. This is exactly what I have been saying. Thank you for making our point for us.
  11. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    I have a sneaky suspicion that you are making this up as you go along. "Recombination - that is not mutation?" The who the what now? If an organism has shorter legs and less hair than the rest of what is considered its species surely then that organism is in fact a mutant? Think of Dwarfs and...
  12. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    Hymenoptera. :D
  13. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    Well for starters the same genetic code used to create scales in dinosaurs/reptiles only needs minor tweaking to result in feathers. Not to mention all the other similarities between dinosaurs and birds. And don't forget the simple fact that some dinosaurs have been shown to have feathers...
  14. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    The presumption that a fly would/could turn into a wasp is where you have made the mistake. From what you have argued thus far I would suggest that it is you who doesn't grasp how evolution works.
  15. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    And right here is where you make your mistake. Not in the slightest. There is no difference between macro and micro evolution in terms of mechanism. If you want to pick hairs then the only difference is time. I would argue that a fly with more wings/legs/heads than our current definition of a...
  16. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    The article doesn't say Darwin knew about DNA did it? So why was it funny? What is the difference between macro/micro at the genetic level?
  17. Fade

    Creationists and stars...

    God is a Scientist? :D
  18. Fade

    Creationists and stars...

    Why not?
  19. Fade

    Where does your faith leave you?

    Your predictions need to be a little more specific.
  20. Fade

    prove me wrong on evolution

    Wikipedia has a good article on it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macroevolution
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