By the way I'm sure this thread was started with the best of intents. Now suddenly we've got Mormons debating Mormons over the most trivial stuff (like Movies). I suggest that everyone quit believing they have to be 'right' on everything and allow this thread to be used for better purposes.
I fully recognize the ambiguity of exact BofM geographic locations, and I conceded the point just to avoid the debate that you seem to be seeking. But make no mistake about it - I could make a strong case for the Nephites being on both continents, and am confident that I am right. But I'll...
Nutshell & Katzpur-
It is not my intent to get into a debate here over Book of Mormon geography. Nor do I think it necessary to "win" every debate. My purpose for being on these sites is somewhat different than yours, I suspect. I concede the point. Nevertheless Moroni 6 does speak about...
Thanks for the honesty. And by the way you're very good at discussing religion. I've only been on here a short while and I've seen numerous thought provoking spiritual discussions initiated by you. Please keep them coming. And know that I would never intentionally say anything harmful about...
The one true God of the Israelites may not be the same being you are worshipping Francine. I don't pretend to know the mind of God. The justification given to Nephi to slay Laban was "Behold the Lord slayeth the wicked to bring forth his righteous purposes. It is better that one man should...
Francine, this conversation wanders far from the basic fundamental teachings of Christ and about Christ that I would prefer to discuss. I totally agree with your first sentence. Fortunately, this is a dilemma that I seriously doubt any of us will have to face. The point is that God, as...
Actually, that is what I'm suggesting. Lots of evidence has been uncovered that suggests these ancient inhabitants had baptismal fonts, temple worship, and other religious ceremonies consistent with the teachings of the Nephites. But, of course, since most of the scientists have no knowledge...
Nutshell, based on what I'm reading here it looks like you've already bitten off a little more than you can chew. Next time you read the BofM look a little closer.
It depends. If a country is forced to defend their liberties and freedoms through war, then no. If a Hitler has world domination as his goal, and threatens and overruns other countries as a result, then yes.
You quoted 1 Nephi in an attempt to prove that LDS would kill if directed by God...
I think you would have to agree that a lot of evidence has been uncovered regarding ancient civilizations in South America. It is true that we really have no idea as to the exact location of Zarahemla.
Great points all! I would say that we are teetering on a precipice, and that any one event could set actions in motion that could have some long term effects. For example, what if we went to war with Iran and that was followed by an oil embargo?
Disagree with you on the LDS church by the way...
Thanks Maggie. That should be interesting. I'm not seeing anyone defend the creed as being divine. Everyone seems to agree that it is surrounded in controversy, and that men had a lot to do in defining it. I have checked out other Christian forums and the confusion and chaos surrounding this...
It's a good question Kadzbiz. The Book of Mormon actually discusses two different civilizations - the Jaredites, who came to the Americas at the time of the Tower of Babel; and the Nephites/Lamanites who came out of Jerusalem at the time of the ministry of Jeremiah (600 B.C.). Did you know...
Not sure what your point is here Francine. Joshua 6:2 And the Lord said unto Joshua, See, I have given into thine hand Jericho...And then we all know the story.
Ahhh, Athanasius, if the Elders said it then it must be absolutely true. :rolleyes: It sounds as though you're trying to make this as complicated as the doctrine of the trinity...
The LDS church believes that the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost are three distinct and separate individuals...
I'm sorry you feel this way Purex. It's the way it's always been done. God has ALWAYS revealed true principals pertaining to salvation, heaven, hell, the purpose of life, etc. through his living oracles.