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  1. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    Do you believe the Flood covering all of the mountaintops is literal? According to the evidence it seems it was only local. My point is that sometimes it isn't obvious whether something is meant to be literal or not.
  2. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    Just because it seems impossible it doesn't mean it isn't meant to be literal.... e.g Matthew 27:52-53 and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. They came out of the tombs after Jesus’ resurrection and went into the holy city and appeared to many...
  3. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    I wonder how many camels have gone through the eye of a needle and how many rich men have gone to heaven instead of hell….
  4. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    If you can make a mountain throw itself into the sea then a mansion or a million dollars seems easy. And who could possibly “need” a mountain to throw itself into the sea?
  5. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    Matthew 21:21 Jesus replied, “Truly I tell you, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and it will be done. Mark 11:23 “Truly I tell you, if anyone says to this mountain...
  6. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    I don't understand why you can't believe that King Solomon was married to 1000 women. Apparently he got 20 tons of gold a year - which is worth about $1 billion....
  7. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    So what do you think the actual numbers might be? 70 wives of royal birth and 30 concubines? 7 and 3? If the 700 and 300 aren't factual and accurate what about the genealogies in Genesis that YECs use to date the earth? Maybe they are totally inaccurate in a similar way that you say about the...
  8. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    @Soapy Just wondering does the 666 talents of gold that King Solomon was said to have received yearly also have some kind of esoteric significance?
  9. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    Yes but I think it mostly isn't historical. I think it can involve tests of character e.g. Deuteronomy 20:16-18 A typical Christian would say that that was historical and God was still perfectly loving and just. I think that passage is immoral. BTW in my NIV Bible it has this text note about...
  10. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    If the Bible was passed down accurately I wonder why many numbers contradict each other here: (see the numbers in yellow and red) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genealogies_of_Genesis#Genesis_chrono-genealogy
  11. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    Well when I was a creationist I had all-or-nothing thinking like this Answers in Genesis quote: https://answersingenesis.org/why-does-creation-matter/ I went from being a YEC to an atheist like in this "tract": https://www.oldearth.org/tract/tract.htm I believe in a non-obvious God like in...
  12. excreationist

    Is it possible that the Bible involves exaggeration? (and King Solomon)

    I believe in a kind of God but also believe that the Bible could include exaggeration.... e.g. About King Solomon: 1 Kings 11:3 I mean I don't understand how there could be that many women of "royal birth". 1 Kings 3:4 - I think this could be historical: But not sure about this: (144,000...
  13. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    But the Bible says this: 1 Corinthians 3:18-20
  14. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    I think Genesis 1 has a poetic structure and doesn't need to be interpreted as being sequential and historical.... (I also think most of the Bible isn't historical but believe in a non-obvious God) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Framework_interpretation First Triad Second Triad Day 1 Let...
  15. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    Yeah I'm somewhat familiar with this Old Earth Creationist argument. So you're saying that the lights in the sky only started to shine through an age (or a day) after the plants were created... but I think some plants might have trouble surviving if the sun wasn't visible in the sky yet. Genesis...
  16. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    Genesis 1:1 says God created the heavens. On the fourth day it says God created lights in the sky (sun, moon and stars). So if they already existed why does it say God was creating them on day 4?
  17. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    I think there are better arguments than that.... e.g. in Genesis it says that plants were created a day before the sun, moon and stars.
  18. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    Well it seems that the Bible says that Christians would be very happy in the afterlife so there must be some kind of explanation for how this can be the case while people they love might be in hell.... I wonder if there are any other possible explanations for this. According to St Thomas...
  19. excreationist

    The mercy of the relatively short human lifespan

    I think it is good that it seems that humans aren't capable of living forever. That way any possible suffering would eventually have an end. On the other hand many Christians believe that most people are going to suffer forever in hell. Forever is a very long time. A googol is a 1 with 100...
  20. excreationist

    The main problems with the gospel genealogies

    You haven't provided any Biblical evidence that Luke involves the genealogy of Mary. Like I said in Luke 1:27 it says: "to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin’s name was Mary." Also the genealogy in Luke 3 says "Joseph was the son of Heli". To...
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