did you even read what i was replying to? or did you just read my reply? i stated i dont believe in either free will or predestination and stated my reasons for not believing so... i thought that was one of the aspects of debate.. and i already stated that nothing about religion is logical its...
ok i know you really dont want m y opinion on this because it is upsetting but hey life is all about having to face less that desireable things on a daily basis so here goes.... jesus was a MAN 33 years old if im not mistaken tortured and killed by other men.... he supposedly had only love in...
for one i dont believe in predestination or free will... and second this is a religious debate board.... what part of religion is logical? the belief in some higher power that has a plan for you and loves you so much that he would put you here on earth to suffer and die because you will never...
How do you know the bible is not accurate? I don't put my hand in the fire because of what I have been taught as a child. It will burn me. Do I need to challenge those teachings too ? I think not. I am not a fool ... Be Well and God Bless...
first.... the crime jesus committed (in the eyes of...
everything has its opposite light and dark up and down.. good and evil its two sides of the same coin so therefore god would be capable of great good and great evil
The bottom line is that you don't believe Jesus even existed. Then why not argue in the hypothetical . Why not respect the feelings of those that do believe and not inadvertently offend . Keep it simple . It really works... Be Well and God Bless...
ok let me put it into context... did i shed...
but wouldnt you jumpin on and off as you chose also be part of gods plan? according to everything i understand he knows what you will do before you do it... he has a plan for you.... so how is "choosing" to follow or not follow what you think is gods plan free will? or is it just a nice...
so jesus didnt have to die for our sins? does that mean he could have said no before god sent him to earth? the "you know what i just really dont wanna be hung on a cross and have sharp things put in my body... think ill pass thanks anyway" defiant teenager thing? to seriously think that he...
ok i see what you mean but still not quite what i mean.... i mean there are people who believe that everything happens for a purpose.... to teach a lesson... to make you stronger... all these events they see as gods plan for them ... gods will... but if everything in your life is part of gods...
ok..... say you knew for a fact that your life on earth would be short but terrible and that once it was over you had a gauranteed place in paradise not just as a normal person but as the right hand of god....... how much would you have actually suffered? the crucifiction is a gastly story to be...
ok for one.... no one mentioned only teaching religion in a catholic school.... thats kind of a no brainer they are catholic:bonk: im saying leave it out of public schools... i mean come on when was the last time you were in a public school? there are gangs hoodlums criminals bullies and...
ok pop quiz.... what are the 2 topics you dont discuss at work?
answer: politics and religion
why? because peoples view on both are sometimes pretty radical or emotionally based... now how many of you have heard that children can be cruel? example..... i got teased when in high school...
... along with atlas who carried the world on his shoulders... and hercules who took that burden from him as one of his tasks..... and just about every other mythical hero in the world.... a hero or martyr is definded by how much he or she (political correct button was pressed) has suffered. i...
well if he was in fact a real man id have to say ummm yeah being nailed to a cross and having a crown of thorns shoved onto your head and being wipped until you bled then having a large spear thrust into your side would cause more than a slight discomfort. i mean come on we have to have a...