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  1. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Outside of the drunk driver, none of the others have chosen to become a threat to the people around them. That said, I do agree with you that the best way to handle it is a first come, first served basis (all other things being equal).
  2. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I think it is worth noting that in no instance was I rude, inconsiderate, or intentionally misleading. I simply tried to reframe the question to encourage discussion. Oh well.
  3. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I am getting the impression you aren't here to have a discussion at all, are you?
  4. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I am, thank you! I agree and that is part of the discussion we are having. But when you insist on making it a personal attack against yourself, it makes these discussions less enjoyable.
  5. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    All of those individuals get pushed aside if there aren't any beds, thats the problem.
  6. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    You didn't choose.
  7. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    People are naturally frustrated. It is like a group project in high school with those who don't contribute. Except instead of getting a D- in Civics Class, you die.
  8. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Let's change the framing a bit with a hypothetical exercise. There are three individuals: An individual with a gun shot wound to the chest. An unvaccinated individual suffering from COVID complications. A drunk man found in the bushes outside of a local Olive Garden You get to choose who gets...
  9. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Yep, I recognize that. But at what else do those individuals need? Misinformation is disproven over time and as more statistics enforce the effectiveness of the vaccine, that excuse loses its strength.
  10. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Normally I agree, however, I am inclined to believe that our current predicament has been made worse by people refusing vaccinations.
  11. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I did not read them this way.
  12. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    If you believe that is the argument of this thread, one of two things: I have made myself unclear or you are misunderstanding the discussion. I can remedy one of those things. I do not believe they should be denied medical care. I am stating that I am unsure how medical resources should be...
  13. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I am curious. What do you think is a wise argument against the vaccine? (Save for medical complications due to allergic reactions, etc.)
  14. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I encourage you not to take these things personally. If you feel that you have been the target if a misguided comment, I would be happy to discuss and apologize as necessary.
  15. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    You are compounding multiple issues. It clouds the discussion.
  16. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    We are not discussing LGBT in this thread, I do not see the relevance of your post.
  17. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I think it is safe to assume that the OP did not make this post with you in mind.
  18. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    The difference is with other diseases, they usually don't impact others around them as aggressively. COVID is unique in that way. When someone makes a choice to refuse the vaccination it puts other people in mortal danger.
  19. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Yikes, this thread turned personal real quick.
  20. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I clarified my position if that helps.
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