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  1. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I think you know what the hypothetical answer would be, its just uncomfortable to talk about.
  2. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    This is not how statistics work.
  3. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Correct and the reason for that is not everyone is vaccinated. Let me ask you this. If everyone was vaccinated, would we even have that variant at all?
  4. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    It has been statistically proven that the rate of death for a vaccinated person due to COVID complications is considerably lower than those who aren't.
  5. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    That depends. In order to get an accurate number we have to drill to the level of the individual. That is challenging to do. 0 (based on current knowledge and understanding)
  6. Quetzal

    A story of many acts...

    Maybe I need to change my profession! :D
  7. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    If we want to get into the weeds here, we need to be specific about which countries, the paths taken, and what the various mandates are. That is not something I am interested in doing tonight.
  8. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    We are in agreement. :)
  9. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Respectfully, these 'statistics' are not presented in good faith and demand a conclusion that isn't accurate.
  10. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I think we have a fundamental difference in how we view the world and that shapes how we approach this problem. I believe people can change their beliefs. At the beginning of this thread, I believed that people with COVID should be withheld medical treatment. Now, I believe a first come, first...
  11. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    My knowledge of biology is fuzzy. But in order to spread, one must be infected. Vaccinated people have a lower rate of infection. My ignorant conclusion would be that vaccinated people have a lower likelihood of spreading variants.
  12. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Do you think willful ignorance should be excused if it means endangering other people? (This question feels sharp/harsh, but I assure you, it isn't intended to be.)
  13. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Do you think that individuals abstaining from the vaccine has made the containment and elimination of the virus easier?
  14. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    The trick is to propose a hypothetical. Then they put you on their ignore list.
  15. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I made no such argument.
  16. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Why not?
  17. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    I expect a draft by tomorrow morning!
  18. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Depends on what they come in for. If they come in with a case of COVID and aren't preventing alarming symptoms, they should be triaged accordingly.
  19. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Which part? What are your thoughts?
  20. Quetzal

    Elective Disease

    Understood, here is my counter: how long does the unvaccinated individual have to wait? The theoretical situation in my head is this: An individual arrives due to COVID complications who does not have a vaccine. Medical resources are withheld as another individual who is vaccinated arrives with...
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