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  1. jonathan180iq

    Are We Alone In The Universe?

    As any being who exists on a planet covered with biology, in a solar system surrounded by other orbiting bodies almost fully covered in at least basic organic compounds, it should be self evident that life is just another facet of the physical, chemical, and geologic processes that comprise...
  2. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    Sorry. I must have missed this over the weekend. This kind of assumption is what I was referring to in my response to Lewis. I realize it may seem that directly topical, but it's not. As far as the thread goes, I'm speaking more towards the general breakdown of civility between individuals as...
  3. jonathan180iq

    Do atheists put flowers on graves?

    Are you an Atheist? If not, then my explanation wasn't intended to include you.
  4. jonathan180iq

    Do atheists put flowers on graves?

    I think the confusion in this thread between theists and atheists stems from a misconception about why we leave decorations in the first place... Grave maintenance and decoration don't do anything for those that have passed, for obvious reasons. But they do something for those that are still...
  5. jonathan180iq

    Do atheists put flowers on graves?

    It doesn't do anything for the dead. It's purely for the living.
  6. jonathan180iq

    How Did 2008 Affect You?

    That's just life. But it sucked.
  7. jonathan180iq

    How Did 2008 Affect You?

    I lost almost all my real estate equity and have spent most of the last 10 years climbing back out of the gutter to avoid bankruptcy and keep everything afloat. Lost years worth or work and investments.
  8. jonathan180iq

    Do atheists put flowers on graves?

    Death is a difficult thing to deal with, to understand, and to embrace. But when you've had a personal relationship with someone who has died, honoring that memory, in any way that seems necessary, is a totally normal part of the grieving and acceptance process. It's also not something that's...
  9. jonathan180iq

    Do atheists put flowers on graves?

    For mother's day this year my siblings and I took my mom over to the cemetery where her parents and grand parents are buried and we cleaned the areas around the headstones, reset one that had fallen over, cleaned the faces of the stones themselves, and left a few decorative items. We shared...
  10. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    Did you come up with this, or this from something?
  11. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    Passive (non)response in the name of direct hate is not at all what I'm talking about or arguing for. I think it's a mistake to pretend the only two options in this conversation are complicity and extremism. There's a ****-ton of middle ground between the two, which I think are vastly more...
  12. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    And I'm sorry that a thread about civil discourse has somehow resulted in an unfavorable opinion of me.
  13. jonathan180iq

    Are you the Captain of your own ship?

    Like a ship, it's a bit of both. Somewhat, yes. We didn't have any say in our becoming - but we do have some say in our eventual outcome. After birth, yes. Both. Both.
  14. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    An as example: I'd wager that not a single person on this forum is ever going to even have the opportunity of a face-to-face meeting with anyone you've referenced above. They will, however, have conversations with people in their individual circles who agree with and justify those actions for...
  15. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    Is this actually what you thought I was getting at? Secondly, how do you disarm hate?
  16. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    I agree that appeals to emotion are part of the internal dialogue that helps feed a sense of justification in some. But appeals to emotion don't solve problems; In this case, they exacerbate them.
  17. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    Thank you for recognizing this. The immediate split in the response to what I wrote, and the assumptions I'm reading as to what my intentions may have been, seems completely lost and we aren't but a couple of pages into this discussion... Which is the exact problem that I'm talking about. Are...
  18. jonathan180iq

    Is Faith/Religion needed to live -- my analysis of Jordan Peterson

    I've read and listened to a lot of Peterson, and Campbell before him. As an admitted Atheist, I don't think these guys are wrong.
  19. jonathan180iq

    Is Faith/Religion needed to live -- my analysis of Jordan Peterson

    I think it's the same issue. Following a purpose that we like, or that seems natural to us is the same thing as following a purpose that we are taught, like religion. The drivers and motivators are the same, which is Peterson's argument.
  20. jonathan180iq

    Civility

    Frankly, I'm pretty concerned with how unruly our public discourse is becoming. I think blaming "the media" is a cop-out, as they're only responsible for their content. We are responsible for our response to that content. We are also responsible for our acceptance of said content. I think...
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