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  1. lovemuffin

    What Are Mystical Experiences Like?

    To try to describe experiences without using words that refer to later interpretations: I have felt what seemed like an expansion, usually focused around my chest, it is sometimes accompanied by something like a tingle throughout my upper body, or something like a pleasant almost electric (in...
  2. lovemuffin

    Famous Pantheistic inclined people through history

    I would consider myself a panentheist for sure, and very nearly a pantheist, although I might also suggest I thought the labels were not perfectly adequate :P I did get a bit ahead of myself, I didn't check where this thread was before replying. If anyone thinks that it is too much of a conflict...
  3. lovemuffin

    Famous Pantheistic inclined people through history

    Einstein's pantheism is a reference to his admiration for Baruch Spinoza, whose "God or nature" is generally considered to be a kind of pantheism, although it is a bit nuanced and debatable. The even more recent "panentheism" might even be closer, but Spinoza's system is in many respects...
  4. lovemuffin

    Christianity Continues Decline in America: Pew Survey Results

    Re: empiricism I think it's at least possible, and probably useful, to distinguish between "empiricism" in the sense tied to modern naturalistic methodology, and the root meaning of the word. Scientific empiricism emphasizes not only the idea that we learn something by practice and by...
  5. lovemuffin

    Winston Churchill was a monster

    It would seem that fighting against a monster is insufficient to establish that one is not also a monster, although perhaps we need a scale of monstrosity. A Monster Index, if you will.
  6. lovemuffin

    Headlines Which Sound Like Wirey

    not after you blew all that hard earned bootleggin' cash on hookers
  7. lovemuffin

    Headlines Which Sound Like Wirey

    Elderly Man With Prostitute Under Bed Loses Housing Subsidy - ABC News
  8. lovemuffin

    Christianity Continues Decline in America: Pew Survey Results

    I care about it. To give a very brief explanation of why, it has to do both with my own felt need to reconcile my religious impulses, experiences, ethics, and general perspective with science, reason, the plurality of religions and cultures, and etc. The Pew polls seem to demonstrate empirically...
  9. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    re: "traditional theism" -- The other day I posted a status update which is a quote from Pseudo-Dionysius, a 6th century Christian mystical theologian, heavily influenced by Neoplatonism, whose writings became foundational to much of Christian theology, especially in eastern orthodoxy. Even...
  10. lovemuffin

    If your sexual orientation was switched......

    At first, I thought you said you would become aromatic. Which, er, how you doin?
  11. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    I wanted to try to respond a bit more to this, and by "this" I mean the general problem of definitions, or the attitude of skepticism towards approaches to the question about 'God' that deny the possibility of giving a conceptually univocal or comprehensive definition. It seems to me that...
  12. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    I can't speak for windwalker, and I can understand how you read his post as pejorative, but I expect he was trying to be more descriptive than critical in that post, along the same lines as gsa's post a bit later on that page. That is, it's just to say that western atheist tends to be a response...
  13. lovemuffin

    - Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite, Epistula IX, I

    - Pseudo-Dionysius the Areopagite, Epistula IX, I
  14. lovemuffin

    Theology does not demonstrate the truth, but exposes it nakedly in symbols, so that the soul...

    Theology does not demonstrate the truth, but exposes it nakedly in symbols, so that the soul, changed by holiness and light, enters into it
  15. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    I know the thread has moved on a fair amount, but I've been traveling and haven't had a chance to post, and I'd like to come back to this for a moment. I think it's an error to conflate grammatical categories with ontological ones. The word "God" in English is a noun, but it would be an...
  16. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    In a sense, yes. Although there are meaningful differences between the understanding of the creed that Jesus was "conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit" and a probably more immediately anthropomorphic idea that Zeus might physically have sex with a human woman. There is more that could be...
  17. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    I didn't use the word classical, and I did say "not entirely". All I mean is that it is almost certainly the case that at some points humans have conceived of deities as being entirely physical realities with essentially super-human powers. They could have children with humans, for example. At...
  18. lovemuffin

    Do theists disbelieve the same God as atheists? Topic open for everyone

    Iti, I know from past conversations that this is a bit of a touchy subject, but if I may: I wouldn't say that you, personally, don't understand. I don't think the kind of argument that windwalker was trying to make, or that I was originally sort of hinting at in the thread that spawned this one...
  19. lovemuffin

    Your best argument that god exists

    And the Gentile says: I see you bowed down full of reverence, shedding not false, but rather heartfelt, tears of love. I wish to know who are you? Christian: I am a Christian. Gentile: Whom do you adore? Christian: God. G: Who is the God, whom you adore? C: I do not know. G: How can you so...
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