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  1. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    What "religion in the Bible" are you referencing? I'm not saying subscribe to a religion. I don't.
  2. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I love how loosely the word science is used. The word means knowledge. It's not some fancy new thing. It's always changing. You can be unimpressed with the references that's okay I definitely have learned when to not keep trying. (Regarding pretty much everyone else thus far) The Bible is...
  3. CLee421

    Chat about Hebrews/Judaism

    Oh I know (about most Jews not accepting Yeshua) I just wanted to be open about myself. As a gentile raised to believe in absolutely nothing, to even talk about this stuff even though I've believed for 8 years now, still surprises me. I guess I should start by asking specific questions but...
  4. CLee421

    Chat about Hebrews/Judaism

    I am a born again and believe Yeshua is Lord. That said I ADORE Jewish history. The Hebrew bible I find to be a goldmine. The "New Testament" is yes, wonderful, but if I had to pick "Old" or "New" for the rest of my life I would say Old. The Torah. I just wanted to say hi, and open a...
  5. CLee421

    'Christian'

    I might say, no. When God called Abraham out of his people, God Himself created the "Hebrews" (meaning wanderers) ... "Jew" comes from the city of Judah, the first established kingdom. No longer wanderers. He told them "you will be My people and I will be your God"
  6. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    Just because God says He created earth for us does not mean He was trying to say we are the "center of the universe" ... in contrast I believe He made us so small and insignificant that we really should be more humble in our approach of all this. The universe is inconceivably huge. We may...
  7. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    So it makes me want to talk to a true Jewish scholar on the matter. Not dismiss it. I said other things anyhow :)
  8. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I've studied a lot. I'll probably always be looking into these things. But I have been changed by the Hebrew God. Believe it .. or not ;)
  9. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    Most (all?) created Gods have flaws and aren't worked into the history of the people like the Jewish people. Created gods are crafted after men or women or animal hybrids, with wrong desires and who overall aren't interested in the well being of humans. The Hebrew God is unique. I can...
  10. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    A little silly I know but :pYea I'm pretty sure.
  11. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I hadn't heard the reference to the day/night thing upon His return. I'll have to look into that. Interesting nonetheless.
  12. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    So you're saying you or others etc ... don't/can't believe in God because you can't prove Him on paper? He's not meant to be understood. An eternal all powerful being outside our realm of existence - able to be fully understood? Nope. We can understand His creation though. And a lot more...
  13. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I was clear about the 3 uses of the word in question - and why it's still plausible - and that is the only thing people keep bringing up regarding the actual post at the moment. It doesn't disprove anything but I know it probably makes you guys feel a sense of satisfaction. There are more...
  14. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I'm not sure where I've done that here. It's not just an assumption. You can't ignore the Hebrew people and their history with God. The fact they exist at all is a testament to Him. The Hebrew Bible is full of things that can't be dismissed just because someone doesn't want to talk about or...
  15. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    It really is. But okay :) And if you say "science" can't know what happened before the beginning - how can you also say this account is "not according to nor in harmony" with something you don't know?
  16. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I'm okay with not knowing something. Just because I'm discussing it in a certain way here doesn't reflect the entirety of my way of thinking.
  17. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    Maybe some operate like that. I went in open. Ready for anything. This after 20 years of believing all religion/spiritual teachings were fabricated. It is not terrible to have an answer or "result" then going to find the cause. Isn't that what gets us looking in the first place?
  18. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    Well we die. That's one point. Temporal. You get into spirituality if you go further. Everything being energy aligns with the biblical text as well. God spoke, there's the first creative energy. Sound waves can eventually become light waves. That all happened in the beginning.
  19. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    I discussed this already .. not that it matters
  20. CLee421

    Science and the Bible

    Who's asserting? Scientists mostly agree there was a starting point to what we see based on the calculations of how the universe is behaving now. Regardless the Hebrew bible provides an answer. And quite a plausible one.
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