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  1. ether-ore

    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    Yes, I know.
  2. ether-ore

    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    How does one "know" of the existence of love? How does one convey a knowledge of that love to someone else? For example: Describe the quality of love one has for their mother. Then describe the quality of love one may have for anyone else... Being absolutely sure of eliminating any hint of...
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    I can appreciate the study of language. I don't know if you remember it. But there was on one of those documentary TV programs (I think NOVA... I'm not sure) a program titled "The Mother Tongue". A extremely interesting documentary tracing the development of English from its Celtic and...
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    What we have here are crossed purposes and conflicting perspectives. Distilling what you have said down to its essence; you seek to discredit scripture by equating it with mythology and thereby hope to prove the non-existence of God. I believe that we can not know anything about God unless God...
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    Isaiah "may be" drawing upon imagery of a Canaanite myth? It "could be" then that Isaiah alludes to a lost Canaanite myth? If it was lost, how then does what was found have any credibility? This is a very weak attempt at making a connection between Isaiah and something which is guesswork at...
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    What is the reference for that verse meaning a Babylonian king? And, are you serious in using poetry as source material. Somebody wants to wax poetic and you think that is a valid reference? The only source material that matters here is scripture. Any fanciful literature reference is nothing...
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    That's an interesting one word response. Why is it nonsense... to you? I suppose I should hasten to add that I (being LDS) subscribe to other scripture which confirms the story I've related and makes it clearer.
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    The connection between Lucifer and Satan in the Bible may be considered by some to be somewhat oblique, but it is there. Isaiah 14:12-15: 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast...
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    I am omnipresent and omnipotent, like God.

    Very cute. Except that your claim doesn't come with the evidence of an overall plan for the benefit of the human family. The concept of having a plan for humanity and of God's plan specifically cannot be lightly dismissed. Also, you have no witness to this claim but yourself whereas God has...
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    Isn't Lucifer the Good Guy?

    Why would you deliberately alter the story or the sequence of events as reported in the Bible so as to aid and abet the enemy of your soul? God did not "make" the angels in heaven and you are also making an incorrect assignment of terms. The hosts of heaven of which we are a part are the...
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    What is the basis for authority in your denomination?

    Yes, I mean by "ordinances" those rites required for entrance into the body of Christ. I had not heard how that worked before in Catholicism. I'm grateful to have the understanding, but I'm curious. What are those other five Sacraments? So, the claim is that this Bishop to Bishop transference...
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    What is the basis for authority in your denomination?

    K... thanks... so I edited the question.
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    What is the basis for authority in your denomination?

    I'd like to know what is the basis for authority to administer ordinances in your denomination?
  14. ether-ore

    Freaking out about what we really can "know" here...

    I would say that you are absolutely correct in terms of knowledge involving technological advancement. Not so much in terms of social. There has been no comparable advancement in knowledge regarding the social interactions of men. I think it is an incorrect assumption that because technology...
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    Freaking out about what we really can "know" here...

    Reason tells me there are things I do not know and this is not merely an issue of exposure to something. It can be said that I do not know something because of limited capacity. And that is the real issue, isn't it? Even with instruments, amplifying or magnifying information to our limited...
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    Neighter Theist nor Atheist

    This acknowledges your starting point... that you believe that man made up God rather than God revealed Himself to man. What you say about atheists who believe that only those things which can be tested and proved are real, can be phrased this way... if I can't see it, it doesn't exist. Or...
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    If Atheists lack morality...

    Benjamin Franklin said: "Here is my creed: I believe in one God, the creator of the universe. That He governs it by His providence. That He ought to be worshiped. That the most acceptable service we can render to Him is in doing good to His other children. That the soul of man is immortal...
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    Omnist Tenet

    OK, so I had to look it up (not knowing what it was myself). I guess I should have figured it out from the prefix "om" (short for "omni" contracted with "ism") but I didn't. Anyway... Apparently, (according to google) omnism is a belief in all religions. I would be interested to know how one...
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    Who do you think babylon the great is?

    My understanding is that Babylon has two meanings. It is that ancient civilization whom Daniel named as the head of gold mentioned in Daniel chapter 2. It is also a metaphor for the world, meaning those who have chosen not to follow God's commands. There are but two kingdoms (spiritually...
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    Why does it matter if Christianity is a sun worshiping religion?

    Now you are mixing metaphors. You are still not hearing me. It is easy to find symbolic parallels with the sun except that, in Christianity, the orb that is the sun is not and never has been worshiped. A couple of other things just fyi: There is no "pastor" in my denomination and whether or...
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