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  1. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Read again what I have to say about Arabic words having a range of meanings according to context. Read also what the translators have to say.
  2. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Concerning the ḥādīth you refer to in post 102 (but neglect to quote): ‘Narrated Abu Musa: That the Prophet (ﷺ) said to him' "O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the mazamir (sweet melodious voices) of the family of David.' (Sahil Bukhari: Ḥādīth 5048 – Darussalam reference system) In my...
  3. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    @InvestigateTruth You write that the ‘zabūr’ is: ‘…just another Book revealed by another David’. You are avoiding – in utter desperation – the fact that the Bible and Qur’an know only one David (this truth is demonstrated simply by reading the Books). The same is true of the ʼaḥādīth. Why...
  4. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Hi, You write: ‘There is no way for anyone to crosscheck these alleged quotes of Baha’u’llah which are ripped out of context to make it appear as if Baha’u’llah claimed to be God. I cannot comment upon these quotes unless I can read the source document. If there is ‘no way for anyone to...
  5. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    At last!..................You write: ‘I think it is important to note that when Baha'u'llah says "We" He is referring to Himself and God and all the other Messengers of God in the Supreme Concourse. Since "We" includes God, it means that God sends the Messengers and the Messengers reveal the...
  6. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Concerning the notion that prophets are ‘Manifestations of God’: In Post 94, InvestigateTruth writes: ‘God said to Moses, I will make you a God to Aaran, and I will make you a God to Pharaoh. A God, means, Manifestation of God.’ This is a distortion of the Text. Here is the relevant verse...
  7. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    In Post 84, Adrian writes: ‘Clearly the Quran, Gospel and Torah are not regarded with equal importance without distinction. In fact for many Muslims the Gospel and Torah that forms part of the Hebrew and Christian scripture are considered either irrelevant or wholly subservient to the Quran...
  8. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Hi, You're very welcome. Many thanks for your reply. May I take this opportunity to comment – before addressing yours – on posts that have gone before: In Post 51, Adrian writes: ‘Bahá’u’lláh (and I believe Muhammad too) refers to an earlier David who revealed a book called the Zabur, now...
  9. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Hi Trailblazer. ‘In Isfahan there was a believer, a prominent man who accepted Baha'u'llah with his brain as the right prophet for today. He was a new believer and tried hard to overcome his shortcomings, like all of us, but had no success with his drinking habit, and friends could smell...
  10. Niblo

    The Q source. Is it truly original Jesus, is it Christian, or is it "Sayings of a Tantric Master"??

    'Letters From a Stoic.' https://hillelettersfromstoic.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/letters-from-a-stoic_lucius-annaeus-seneca.pdf
  11. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Thank for your courteous reply. Insha'Allah, I will come back to you before the weekend. Work stuff to do :eek:. Have a great week, and may the Exalted bless you and those you love. @adrian009 : Ditto for you, too :blush:
  12. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    That the Bible and Qur'an know only one David is clear to see. I don't consider any scholar - Muslim or otherwise- to be 'perfect' or 'infallible'. I do, however, trust Allāh (subḥānahu ūta'āla). Thank you for your time.
  13. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Muslim scholars know perfectly well that the Bible and Qur'an know only one David, and this is King David. It was he - and he alone - who was given Scripture (Al-Zabur). If certain folk wish to think otherwise, that is for them.
  14. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Then you are in accord with the Bible and Qur'an. I respect your honesty and integrity. May the Beloved bless you, and keep you safe in these difficult times.
  15. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    The Bible and Qur'an know only one David, and that is King David. It is he, and he alone, that the Qur'an is referring to. The 'Zabur' given to him by his Lord is the Book of Psalms. And how come neither Bahá'u'lláh nor Abdu’l-Bahá mention two Davids in their respective writings: The one given...
  16. Niblo

    Anytime, Chris.. Am busily avoiding the sun! Very best regards. Paul

    Anytime, Chris.. Am busily avoiding the sun! Very best regards. Paul
  17. Niblo

    Baha'i and Islamic concepts of Prophets - Similar or irreconcilably different?

    Hi Adrian, I trust you are well. It is necessary to clarify the use of the word ‘prophet’; an alien word when applied to the Arabic language; and especially so when it is used within the context of Islam. The correct words to use in this context are ‘Nabī’ and ‘Rasūl’. A Nabī is a man sent...
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