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  1. Thana

    Poll: Give up your religion to save a stranger

    So you value your life more than your faith. I value my faith more than my life.
  2. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    God made us. Our lives come from Him and if He wills it, our deaths. It's His right to give or take away, as He see's fit. And death isn't a bad thing anyway.
  3. Thana

    Poll: Give up your religion to save a stranger

    Of course. I would give up my life for anothers if I were called to do so. I would not, however, give up my faith. And I agree, But it's a hypothetical so the point is to play along.
  4. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    Lot was a man of God, of course He revered Him. And he did actually try to do the right thing, regardless of the result he still tried. He was not a bad man, atleast that is not what I got from the story. He was just a flawed man, but all the men in the bible were flawed men. Job, David...
  5. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    If they don't deserve forgiveness and a second chance then neither do you and neither do I. Honestly, where do you get off judging others? Are you perfect? Do you think if you were born in ancient times and were made King you would've been perfectly just and fair? Come on.
  6. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    For goodness sake, it's not either or. Repentence is what God calls us to do, it is an act of revering God.
  7. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    When David realized what he'd done he howled and tore his shirt and fell to his knees. All very dramatic. Everyone does terrible things, the only difference is some are sorry afterwards and want to change and some are not. Lot wasn't a perfect man, David was not a perfect man, none of us are...
  8. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    In what way is abusing children and poisoning little old ladies (Is that the best imagery you could conjure btw?) revering God? Only someone who has truly repented of that is capable of righteousness.
  9. Thana

    Poll: Give up your religion to save a stranger

    It wouldn't be, though. How many times were people martyred for their faith in the bible, Why would God expect them to give up their own lives to keep their faith but not apply that to anothers life?
  10. Thana

    Americastan.....Patriarchy Or Matriarchy?

    You disagree that our society is patriarchal? And you base that seemingly completely on anecdotal evidence and the fact that more women exercise their right to vote than men in America. I just don't see that as reasonable. So sure, I guess I agree that we disagree.
  11. Thana

    Poll: Give up your religion to save a stranger

    What is the point of stalling death when it costs you everything, is what I was driving at.
  12. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    No, fearing God is in all ways revering Him. And I don't think it's fair to judge Lot based on a story about Him. A persons life is more than that, And Lots entire life and every thought was not accounted for so I cannot say. All I know is that he was deemed righteous because of his fear of...
  13. Thana

    Americastan.....Patriarchy Or Matriarchy?

    We've all agreed that women are not completely powerless, and that the term patriarchy is for general use only. I understand your position, I really do. You're trying to show that women aren't as powerless as we may think, but we know that. It's just that it's not good enough. Men still...
  14. Thana

    Poll: Give up your religion to save a stranger

    No, my earlier position is that faith has more value than life. Faith is the point of life.
  15. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    Right. So it would be fine for me to judge you as a person based solely on the bad things you've done?
  16. Thana

    Poll: Give up your religion to save a stranger

    In that case, yes I would.
  17. Thana

    Americastan.....Patriarchy Or Matriarchy?

    You seem to be very conflicted, You're changing your mind throughout this thread constantly. You want us to give a good argument for the existence of a current patriarchy and when we do you shoot down our statistics and facts in favour of your anecdotes. That's not a very reasonable position.
  18. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    Of course not. Morality is not a divine concept. An apology for misinterpreting my post and getting all stuffy about it wouldn't go amiss. But it's up to you :)
  19. Thana

    Lot, One of the Bible's bad Guys

    I just told you. Righteousness is attributed to those that fear God. And I've done terrible things, you've done terrible things, maybe not something as morally reprehensible as serial child abuse but none of us are innocent. So yes, sure, if they were truly repentant than they could be...
  20. Thana

    feel like a hypocrite

    As long as you're not abusing the alcohol then it's really not an issue, The bible says to drink and be merry. And with the smoking, well, that's between you and God. He wants you to look after your body, but I wouldn't exactly say it's a sin to smoke. It's just not good for you, physically or...
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