But nothings changed, even though we've gained more knowledge, the majority of the world still believes in something.
God.
I didn't say it was my bet, I just said that the smart money was on them. I don't bet on God's existence, I believe in it.
And I don't consider you beneath me. Come on...
Really? I've never heard others bring it up before.
I don't see how God being a father could be cast in a negative light, but it's our best way of personalizing Him that is why we use it.
Just because God gave me the ability to breathe does not mean that I think God breathes. Just because God gave me the capability for morality does not mean that He is bound by it.
It's not a reprieve, It's just that our morality is as fallible as we are. So why would it apply to an infallible God?
Well no, you can use debate as a method to learn. As a way to have a discussion. It doesn't have to be a way to win an argument.
I never said that. I just used the human/clay analogy to show the vast difference between men and God. That it's not merely the difference between a parent and child.
I don't doubt that.
I also don't doubt that you believe Theists are like scared little children and their blankey is the bible that they clutch to their shaking chest at night. But we're not stupid, and honestly I think we analyze our faith a lot more than Atheists do. So whilst I appreciate...
I've had to explain that in regards to God, the parent/child analogy can only go so far.
And we don't create children. We are not their makers, parents yes but not their makers. We have no control over anything but their conception (And if you believe in predetermination then not even that) ...
No, Because I'm not here to convince people. I just like to debate.
And you're using the passage out of context, which makes it sound as if the NT or the OT actually considered humans Gods when it was really just referring to humans with authority who were like Gods among men and the whole...
Comparing our sentience to God, is in my opinion, equivalent to comparing humans with clay. Kind of why I went with that analogy.
And I... really don't know what to say to people who think as you do. Not because there are no words because there are, but because people like you can't hear them...
Are you trying to say that Death was an effect outside of God's control?
He created it, like He created the tree.
And I'm not sure why you've brought 'perfect' into it. I don't recall suggesting anything like that.
All that story did for me is make me realize that Buddhism really is no different to any other religion. The serial killer saw his inner peace? Exactly how does one see anothers inner peace? Is that story really trying to persuade people that ones demeanor can stop serial killers?
I don't know...
You do realize God created death, right?
That means that everyone who dies does so by His will. So technically He murders every single human being anyway.
I don't think much would change.
People are who they are, Religion doesn't change that.
There would still be people uptight about Christmas, They'd still want secularism and Evolution would still be taught in some schools. And we'd still have all the disagreements and arguments that we have now.
You tell me.
No, it's just where He is.
Are you implying that I can't think for myself?
No, where He is. If I asked you what Theists believe their God concept to be you would repeat to me what I said to you because that is the Abrahamic Monotheistic God concept. You don't have to accept it...
Neither does a puppy acknowledge their owner and master.
And I didn't put Him on that pedestal, thats just the basic monotheistic concept of God. If you aren't willing to approach Him as is then bringing Him down to a level He is not at just to debate the faults you gave Him is not very productive.
Free pass? Ego?
I'm not the one who thinks they can judge a being that is supposed to be omniscient and omnipotent and the Creator of the entire universe. I mean what size ego must you have to do that?
And one would imagine that a belief in God and the practice of prayer to Him and meditation on...
By what standards are we to judge God?
My answer is none. We're not capable, or worthy to judge Him and you even less so since you don't even know Him. All you can judge is second hand perceptions of Him, and if you actually cared about accuracy you'd realize that even if you could get a...
Well I'm sure that won't be a complete and utter waste of your time to postulate the immorality of a being you don't even believe exists in the first place.