I honestly hope your right that my fears can be so simply dismissed.
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11 year old girl facing death penalty for "blasphemy"
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I honestly hope your right that my fears can be so simply dismissed.
Rational_Mind
Ahmadi Muslim
Hadrat Ali narrates that the Holy Prophet (saw) said:
A time will come in the near future when there will be
nothing left of Islam except its name. And there will
be nothing left of the Holy Quran except its words
[meaning the Holy Quran would not be understood
and followed]. The mosques of that age will apparently
be full of people, but will be empty of righteousness.
Their ulema will be the worst creatures under the heaven.
Discordwill rise from them and will come right back to them.
[That is, these ulema will be the source of all evils.]
(al-Baihaqi as quoted in al-Mishkat Kitab-ul Ilm, chapter 3, p. 38 and Kanzul Ummal, chapter 6, p. 43)
My people shall be seized with consternation: they will,
then, make for their ulama. But they shall find that their
ulama have became apes and swines. (Kanzul Ummal, vol. 7, p. 190)
(At that time) people rolling in riches shall be many; but
those well-versed in the Law of Islam, few and far
between. The sermon-grinders in the mosques shall be
cunning and crafty, and the reciters of the Quran shall be
deceitful dissemblers. They shall turn their faces away
from Religion and expound on matters temporal. They
shall devour the world as the fire consumes fuel. But,
remember that Hell shall be the abode of these people, for
into that torturous place the cruel and the unjust have ever
been cast. (Kanzul Ummal, vol. 5, p. 217)
This pretty much sums up terrorism and bigotry today through the apparent Ulema..
CynthiaCypher
Well-Known Member
Remember Christians, you used to burn people for blasphemy and heresy. So he or she who is without sin cast the first handful of monkey feces.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
Sure.
Hundreds of years ago Christians used superstitions to target........other Christians!
I fail to see the importance of people bringing this up. It's like the nonsense of sins of the father.
Focus on the issue at hand. That's all that matters.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Latest on the issue of the innocent girl:
Last week, Khalid Jadoon, the imam who first gave police evidence against her, was arrested after his deputy accused him of adding pages from the holy book to the burnt papers taken from Rimsha.
Malik constitutes team to probe Rimsha Masih case | DAWN.COM
Malik constitutes team to probe Rimsha Masih case
Last week, Khalid Jadoon, the imam who first gave police evidence against her, was arrested after his deputy accused him of adding pages from the holy book to the burnt papers taken from Rimsha.
Malik constitutes team to probe Rimsha Masih case | DAWN.COM
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Our prophet Muhammad depicted today's scenario of ignorant and extremist ulema very correctly, I believe.
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Wow.
50 people have posted in this thread, only 4 of them are Christian. . .
. . . 348 posts in this thread, only 26 of them made by Christians. . .
. . . and yet you felt that the Christians specifically needed to be singled out for this little reminder.
And I kind of doubt that any of our Christian members have ever burned anyone. Just a hunch.
jasonwill2
Well-Known Member
You actually counted? That must of taken a while lol.
InfidelRiot
Active Member
"Used to" being the operative phrase, which still does not invalidate all the harm the Christian religion has caused in the name of its god.
gnomon
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't give him any Haagen Dasz until he did so.
but the past failing of certain individuals does not invalidate the Christian religion.
I know everything that goes on in here, Jason. EV-ER-Y-THING.
btw, your socks don't match today. What's up with that?
No, I think "you used to" is the operative phrase here.
It isn't about the validity of the charges it's about the identity and culpability of the accused.
Does someone who adopts a belief system automatically inherit responsibility for the actions of every other member of that belief system, past and present?
jasonwill2
Well-Known Member
They almost never match, but oddly enough when you posted this they did.
averageJOE
zombie
I suddenly had the vision in my head of Woody from Toy Story spinning his head around saying "We toys see Everything!"
jasonwill2
Well-Known Member
That...was a good movie. I do not believe I have seen it in years though.
RedJamaX
Active Member
Other than the death penalty, these points are more globally disturbing...
This was taken directly from the report:
"On Monday, Pakistani police arrested the girl, known only by her first name, Ramsha, after accusations that she burned pages of the Koran, Islam's holy book. In Pakistan, it is a crime to utter derogatory statements or insult the Prophet Muhammad or the Koran in any way. Blasphemy convictions carry an automatic death sentence."
First of all... it's a punishment based without evidence - "accusations"
Secondly, and far worse... their religion IS their government... the religion sets the law???
This was taken directly from the report:
"On Monday, Pakistani police arrested the girl, known only by her first name, Ramsha, after accusations that she burned pages of the Koran, Islam's holy book. In Pakistan, it is a crime to utter derogatory statements or insult the Prophet Muhammad or the Koran in any way. Blasphemy convictions carry an automatic death sentence."
First of all... it's a punishment based without evidence - "accusations"
Secondly, and far worse... their religion IS their government... the religion sets the law???