20 Signs that God exist, and Quraan is the word of God

[Sabour]

You have no idea how wrong you are.

Well actually that is the way I see it. It may be wrong but I believe that no one is born homosexual. It is not something that one can prove I think.

Anyways, Lut peace be upon him was sent to people who were homosexuals and shared with them the message of God.

This has to count for something

 

[farouk]

I don't regard the Bible as an authority on morality either. Actually, I consider a lot of the verses in it to be violent and unethical.

I don't care what an ancient book says about homosexuals. They're humans with equal rights and should be treated as such. Comments like "send them to a rehab" say far more about your hateful condescension toward others than they say about them.

What hateful condescension you talking about?
I present to you facts from a religious point of view.If you having a problem accepting the truth then its your problem.From a religious point of view its immoral.
Have a good day.

 

[farouk]

NONE of these in their original language can actually be proved to be about homosexuality.


We have discussed these many times.


For instance - Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.


This actually says;

23:17 There shall be no Qadeshah of the daughters of Israel, nor a Qadesh of the sons of Israel.



These are the Sacred Prostitutes of Baal worship, - which is why Hebrew sons and daughters are forbidden to become such.


It has nothing to do with homosexuals.



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Good try.
Sodomites and dogs are biblical names for homosexuals.
Now what about Leviticus 18:22/20:13

 

[Debater Slayer]

What hateful condescension you talking about?
I present to you facts from a religious point of view.If you having a problem accepting the truth then its your problem.From a religious point of view its immoral.
Have a good day.

Scientific evidence says otherwise. Personal beliefs don't dictate reality; that you keep making hateful and insulting comments about homosexuals because of something they can't control--just like you can't control your heterosexuality--is what I find to be condescending.

All I can do is counter statements like the ones you have made in this thread and advise people to look further into the scientific consensus regarding this issue, because the misconceptions about it affect a lot of people's lives and cause them to suffer unnecessarily.

Have a good day as well. I just hope you research this whole subject more and try not to hurt people with your comments about them.

 

[FearGod]

What kind of sex homosexuals do ?
Is it anal sex ?
Is it a healthy practice and does the homosexual have a specific sensation in the Anus that don't exist in the heterosexual men.

 

[Debater Slayer]

What kind of sex homosexuals do ?
Is it anal sex ?
Is it a healthy practice and does the homosexual have a specific sensation in the Anus that don't exist in the heterosexual men.

These questions have been repeatedly answered before. You can also do a simple Google search on the topic if you are really interested in accurate information about it.

 

[FearGod]

These questions have been repeatedly answered before. You can also do a simple Google search on the topic if you are really interested in accurate information about it.

I am asking about the opinions,members opinions otherwise we can search for anything and close the RF.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I am asking about the opinions,members opinions otherwise we can search for anything and close the RF.

Members (me included, of course) may or may not be well-informed enough on the subject to answer your questions properly. I'm also not sure what the point of the questions is, regardless of who you're asking.

 

[FearGod]

Members (me included, of course) may or may not be well-informed enough on the subject to answer your questions properly. I'm also not sure what the point of the questions is, regardless of who you're asking.

I don't think the Anus in gays are different than the others and i believe that the hole is for defecating and nothing else,oh,for farting too.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I don't think the Anus in gays are different than the others and i believe that the hole is for defecating and nothing else,oh,for farting too.

So, you're basically asking about the purpose of the anus, i.e., a medical question.

I still think using Google for those questions is the best way to have them answered properly.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

What kind of sex homosexuals do ?
Is it anal sex ?
Is it a healthy practice and does the homosexual have a specific sensation in the Anus that don't exist in the heterosexual men.

I am a bisexual guy, and I have never had anal sex, and hate the idea personally. There are definitely other ways of having sex other than repeatedly stabbing someone with your "member." Also, yes, there is an organ that can be sexually stimulated in the male anus. It's called the prostate, and the sensation feels the same for gay men and straight men alike.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

I don't think the Anus in gays are different than the others and i believe that the hole is for defecating and nothing else,oh,for farting too.

*Sigh* stay classy America! :sarcastic

 

[YmirGF]

Oy vey, yet another train wreck of a thread where the resident Muslims come off looking like backward morons... Pity, really.

 

[FearGod]

I am a bisexual guy, and I have never had anal sex, and hate the idea personally. There are definitely other ways of having sex other than repeatedly stabbing someone with your "member" Also, yes, there is an organ that can be sexually stimulated in the male anus. It's called the prostate, and the sensation feels the same for gay men and straight men alike.

If anal isn't preferred by some then what is the alternative.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

If anal isn't preferred by some then what is the alternative.

Non-penetrative sex - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Ingledsva]

The verse is very clear and it has nothing to do with the Apostates but it is only your problem because of the way you want to think "wishful thinking".

You have to be well educated in the Arabic language as to make a fair judgement.

[youtube]3Y2Or0LlO6g[/youtube]
Lesley Hazleton: A "tourist" reads the Koran - YouTube

LOL! That is funny - as I used the source YOU were trying to use to disprove me.


It does have the Arabic.




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[Ingledsva]

Are you fluent in Arabic? No? Ok then.

LOL! I used his source - which has the Arabic!


Get a clue guys!



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[Ingledsva]

Well actually that is the way I see it. It may be wrong but I believe that no one is born homosexual. It is not something that one can prove I think.

Anyways, Lut peace be upon him was sent to people who were homosexuals and shared with them the message of God.

This has to count for something

Lot/Lut was not sent to homosexuals.



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[Ingledsva]

Good try.
Sodomites and dogs are biblical names for homosexuals.
Now what about Leviticus 18:22/20:13

And you would be incorrect. They are terms for Sacred Prostitutes of Baal.


Which, I will add, is obvious by the sentence itself, since it uses the terms Qadeshah and Qadash, which are Sacred Prostitutes.


Leviticus 18:22 is also about Sacred Prostitutes. It changes to Molech/Baal worship at 18:21 and continues on down listing some of their sex acts, including sex with animals, etc.


Leviticus 20:13 does not say what it is usually translated as. For instance, - there is no "as with a" woman, in the sentence.


Look them up.


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[beenie]

LOL! I used his source - which has the Arabic!


Get a clue guys!



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*Pound hard enough and they'll accept...*

(only they don't)

Look, I'm no apologist for the Qur'an or any other religious book, but I don't pretend to know something I clearly don't. You have people fluent in Arabic telling you what the verses mean, and you still persist that you know better.

I don't wish to engage in what could be a fruitful debate with people who just come to argue, yell, and stomp their feet.

Peace, and have a good day.