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20 Signs that God exist, and Quraan is the word of God

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Yes, we have actually discussed all of those, already. :)



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:facepalm:

You are still insisting in your silly discussion after we had showed you that you can't judge while you are ignorant about the origin language of the quran.


I wonder that you smile while showing your ignorance.i know some ignorant people doing the same thing.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Sign 21, Fact of evolution and that there were humans who were extincted and that modern human have been evolved and created from the genes or seeds of the extincted ones.

Several translations for Verse (6:133)

Your Lord is Free of all wants; (He is) the Lord of Mercy. If He wants, He can wipe you out, and have another people _ whomever He wants _ succeed you, just as He raised you from the genes of a different nation.


And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.


And thy Sustainer alone is self-sufficient, limitless in His grace. If He so wills, He may put an end to you and thereafter cause whom He wills to succeed you - even as He has brought you into being out of other people's seed.
 

Lyndale

Forgiven
Sign 21, Fact of evolution and that there were humans who were extincted and that modern human have been evolved and created from the genes or seeds of the extincted ones.

Several translations for Verse (6:133)

Your Lord is Free of all wants; (He is) the Lord of Mercy. If He wants, He can wipe you out, and have another people _ whomever He wants _ succeed you, just as He raised you from the genes of a different nation.


And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.


And thy Sustainer alone is self-sufficient, limitless in His grace. If He so wills, He may put an end to you and thereafter cause whom He wills to succeed you - even as He has brought you into being out of other people's seed.



:yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K2XfdCjXfk
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Sign 21, Fact of evolution and that there were humans who were extincted and that modern human have been evolved and created from the genes or seeds of the extincted ones.

Several translations for Verse (6:133)

Your Lord is Free of all wants; (He is) the Lord of Mercy. If He wants, He can wipe you out, and have another people _ whomever He wants _ succeed you, just as He raised you from the genes of a different nation.


And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.


And thy Sustainer alone is self-sufficient, limitless in His grace. If He so wills, He may put an end to you and thereafter cause whom He wills to succeed you - even as He has brought you into being out of other people's seed.


What :areyoucra
 

Lyndale

Forgiven



Prove it fake if you can?

Of course you'll reply back with some kind of 'can't do it comment and I'll reply back are you blind and you''ll reply back are you stupid and we'll go round and round, but you should ask yourself how can it as a whole contain the story of creation of Eden?
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Prove it fake if you can?

Of course you'll reply back with some kind of 'can't do it comment and I'll reply back are you blind and you''ll reply back are you stupid and we'll go round and round, but you should ask yourself how can it as a whole contain the story of creation of Eden?

I am an alien, I can fly at night and I read minds.

Prove it fake if you can.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
What :areyoucra

You have to explain why,

Read the verse carefully

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And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.

God says that he can wipe us from existence, IOW no one will be alive,then he will create another people(humans) from the seeds of the previous ones(modern humans) as he already created us form the seeds of the extincted ones.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
You have to explain why,

Read the verse carefully

6_133.png


And your Lord is the Free of need, the possessor of mercy. If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to whomever He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people.

God says that he can wipe us from existence, IOW no one will be alive,then he will create another people(humans) from the seeds of the previous ones(modern humans) as he already created us form the seeds of the extincted ones.

"If he wills"

Besides, do we have to discuss the story of Adam ?
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
:facepalm:

You are still insisting in your silly discussion after we had showed you that you can't judge while you are ignorant about the origin language of the quran.


I wonder that you smile while showing your ignorance.i know some ignorant people doing the same thing.



LOL! Not!


But you keep trying. :D




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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
My point is to show that your point is silly.



All you are doing is showing that you are silly.


When you can't refute what has been said - you go off the beaten path into add in crap - such as more animals - having NOTHING to do with the original discussion!




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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
"If he wills"

Besides, do we have to discuss the story of Adam ?

The verse has nothing to do with the story of Adam.

Adam and Eve is the new creation of God evolved from the previous ones (Jinns)

Our problem that we think that God create with his hands and not by plan and design.

Are you a creation of God ? of course you are.
But how you came to life,isn't by the stages of creation on the womb or by God's hand.

Hope my point is clear.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
The verse has nothing to do with the story of Adam.

Adam and Eve is the new creation of God evolved from the previous ones (Jinns)

Our problem that we think that God create with his hands and not by plan and design.

Are you a creation of God ? of course you are.
But how you came to life,isn't by the stages of creation on the womb or by God's hand.

Hope my point is clear.

Yep I know it has nothing to do Adam and Eve and it has nothing to do with evolution.

Adam and Eve descendent from heaven. And that is how life started.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Yep I know it has nothing to do Adam and Eve and it has nothing to do with evolution.

Adam and Eve descendent from heaven. And that is how life started.

Evolution doesn't mean that God's hand is absent.
Again we are evolved or developed in our mother's wombs but still we are God's creation.

There were kind of people which have been extincted(that is a fact),those creation were called Jinns in the quran,they lived earth before humans and were less smarter than modern humans,the difference is knowledge,pen and science.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
All you are doing is showing that you are silly.


When you can't refute what has been said - you go off the beaten path into add in crap - such as more animals - having NOTHING to do with the original discussion!




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You said that the ability of smell is a survival skill for the dogs,so as to show it as a stupid idea then i have to ask you how the goat survived.
 

beenie

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
If people want to argue the merits has authenticity of Islam, have at it.

However, please don't drudge on and on about how fluent Arabic-speaking members are mistaken, while others who have "taken comparative religion" classes are correct. Sorry, but no one is going to take you seriously when you have people repeatedly correcting your grammatical shortcomings in a language you clearly don't know, and yet you continue with your brainwashed drivel.
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Evolution doesn't mean that God's hand is absent.
Again we are evolved or developed in our mother's wombs but still we are God's creation.

There were kind of people which have been extincted(that is a fact),those creation were called Jinns in the quran,they lived earth before humans and were less smarter than modern humans,the difference is knowledge,pen and science.

Look, we don't need to adapt anything or speak about something we don't know just to please people. Islam is perfect. If we tried to put our interpretations and come up with things it won't be anymore.

Don't try to force evolution. Don't reject the hadith if it doesn't make sense for us. This is a lack of our understandings, not because they are wrong.

7:12 Sahih International
[ Allah ] said, "What prevented you from prostrating when I commanded you?" [Satan] said, "I am better than him. You created me from fire and created him from clay."
 
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