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2024 USA PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DAY watch party.

Eliana

Member
I shutter to think on how she would be able to handle the pressures of foreign relations and even more so, actual wars or potential wars that exist on the planet.

Why? Because she's a woman? Trump the ever whiner and his gaggle of always aggrieved white followers are hardly a projection of strength. The fact that Trump gives Putin and other dictators a (metaphorical) sloppy ** at every opportunity isn't exactly a confidence builder. He has a room temperature IQ, (although still apparently higher then many of his voters), and was laughed at by world leaders. You people live in such a delusional alternative reality it breaks my heart. I don't care if the U.S. burns down, you people brought it on yourselves and deserve it, my worry is how it will affect Europe and The Middle East.
 
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Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No it will be much much worse than 4 years of incompetence. Last time people did not know what Trump, this time they do and are ready to use the opportunity.
For starters, I expect Ukraine to be lost to Russia...following which China will likely conquer Taiwan as we all know Trump will not be going to any type or war and is easy to fool and bully or bribe.
I also expect general rearmament in Japan and most European countries along with a greater drive to obtain nuclear weapons and Trump is unlikely to accept any NATO responsibilities....treaties be damned.
Yes, if anything he will increase nuclear tensions. In fact I do not doubt that he would want to up our nuclear arsenal a bit himself.

We may have the house again. And though the Senate is lost we still have the ability to oppose using filibusters.

I think that a lot of his bills will need to be passed with a warning of how bad it is going to be for the economy etc..
 

Mock Turtle

Oh my, did I say that!
Premium Member
This is the sort of thing I hear from Trump supporters that makes it difficult to see Trump's appeal.

I really do get the sense that Trump supporters generally fall into a few categories:

- anti-choicers who don't like him, but are willing to vote for anyone who will appoint anti-abortion judges

- people who see his racism, misogyny and xenophobia as positives, not negatives

- people who just want to metaphorically burn the whole system down and see Trump as the guy to do it, or

- people whose Republican party affiliation is such a part of their identity that they'd never think to vote for anyone else.


Except for the second category, I see very few people who can coherently express why they think Trump will do what they consider to be a good job. People will fire off platitudes like "the economy!" but without anything to back it up, so it feels like cover for their real reasons for voting for him.

I just don't get it.
Here is a short, simple explanation as to why people vote for what: o_O

 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
In 2020, there were 209 million registered voters in the US. Not sure this year.

Hmm. So far 138 million voted for a presidential candidate. In 2020 155 million voted. So the turnout was much lower this time.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
In 2020, there were 209 million registered voters in the US. Not sure this year.

Hmm. So far 138 million voted for a presidential candidate. In 2020 155 million voted. So the turnout was much lower this time.
You mean the turn out for Democrats. I've seen multiple reports showing how Trump increased his numbers in many states/counties.
 

Pogo

Well-Known Member
You're hateful and spiteful rhetoric doesn't mean squattly **** to people anymore. People had enough of this useless crap so step aside and watch real people , including to my pleasant surprise, real blue dog Democrats as they show how this country needs to be run properly.

You can now go back and post in the Communist dirs to your heart's content.
I have one conclusion after interacting with several hundred voters roughly equally from all parties,
Arrogant ignorance beat ignorant arrogance.

We shall suffer on until the ignorance is defeated by and arrogance is not getting us anywhere.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
She couldn't even go out on the stage before her supporters at Howard University last night.
Yeah I heard about that. She went complete radio silence and Howard University said she will be there tomorrow. Okay if she wants to have a good old-fashioned cry. I guess I won't hold it against her, but truth be told she doesn't really show any sign of strength and resolve during times of stress and even personal anguish which makes me even more assured that Trump is the right choice here for running a nation because he met and exceeded all those things and even then some.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
She didn't win a single battleground state. It's shocking, and shows she was an even worse candidate than I thought.
She was incompetent right from the start with the first presidential run, and it's a real head scratcher why she was just appointed by party overlords like communists do without any offer for Democrats to vote in their own nominee.

That to me is the most Un-American thing I've seen , which to me contributed to her defeat.
 

RestlessSoul

Well-Known Member
Yeah I heard about that. She went complete radio silence and Howard University said she will be there tomorrow. Okay if she wants to have a good old-fashioned cry. I guess I won't hold it against her, but truth be told she doesn't really show any sign of strength and resolve during times of stress and even personal anguish which makes me even more assured that Trump is the right choice here for running a nation because he met and exceeded all those things and even then some.


But on the other hand he’s quite clearly a deranged, deluded, morally bankrupt narcissistic liar and rapist, so there’s that.

I mean, ffs America, I’m sure you had your reasons, but are you all hypnotised or something? You just put an obvious psychopath in the Whitehouse. Not that he’s the first, but even so…
 
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