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A Case of Hypocrisy and Racism?

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
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In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.
 

Yerda

Veteran Member
Is this to do with the stunt Desantis pulled?

Didn't people come out and immediately offer help?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
What do you think?

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In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.
It's pretty certain these gracious platitudes we see and hear in public are not out of heart, but for advantageous gain.

The wealthy and elites in general simply can't stand and vehemently despise any and all people who are not of their class and stature when it come right down to the wire.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
What do you think?

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In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.
They probably were brought to a more suitable longterm living situation.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
It's pretty certain these gracious platitudes we see and hear in public are not out of heart, but for advantageous gain.

The wealthy and elites in general simply can't stand and vehemently despise any and all people who are not of their class and stature when it come right down to the wire.
Some wealthy, not all. Same with middle class.
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
The hypocrisy is those who claim to be Christian but treat human beings in need like political props. And the far right Christians who ignore the hardship and suffering of these people as as well.

I see no condemnation of DeSantis secretely sending migrants to a wealthy vacation island just so he can serve up drama and pain to please his base. Cruelty is the point. The far right are laughing.

The humanitarians in MA helped these people, and if any of them were Christian they showed the world what it means to be a Christian: helping those in need.

I hope those people who claim to be Christian can see the hypocrisy of the far right, and refuse to support their immorality.
 
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metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans.
1/3 of the people there are those of color, plus it's not just the wealthy that live there.
Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".
Did you ever consider they were moved temporarily to another area, so we'll see what happens next.

So, are you endorsing DeSantis quite disingenuous move as the Venezuelans were lied to as they were told they were being bussed to Boston for resettlement? Since the Republicans generally state that they are far better at "law & order" than us, what if we here in Michigan take people out of our prisons and fly them to Florida?

I'm sorry, but it was a cheap dirty trick done at taxpayer's expense.

We well know that there's a serious problem with this, but Congress cannot get its act together and come up with a better set of solutions.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Let me add something as a follow-up:
Since when is it "kosher" for one state leader to send people to another state while lying to them without even asking the receiving state's permission? Does Desantis and his supporters have any moral and truly patriotic beliefs at all?
 

F1fan

Veteran Member
1/3 of the people there are those of color, plus it's not just the wealthy that live there.
Did you ever consider they were moved temporarily to another area, so we'll see what happens next.

So, are you endorsing DeSantis quite disingenuous move as the Venezuelans were lied to as they were told they were being bussed to Boston for resettlement? Since the Republicans generally state that they are far better at "law & order" than us, what if we here in Michigan take people out of our prisons and fly them to Florida?

I'm sorry, but it was a cheap dirty trick done at taxpayer's expense.

We well know that there's a serious problem with this, but Congress cannot get its act together and come up with a better set of solutions.
And DeSantis is just like Trump who does demeaning political stunts for the attention and to get more support by the far right evangelical base. So DeSantis knows his Christian base are deplorable and will applaud his immoral actions. Now we see some of these very "Christians" attacking democrats for hypocrisy, which is ironic. Conservtives expect liberals to be better Christians.

So DeSantis knows his base are immoral and deplorable, and will be pleased to see these migrants used for publicity. The far right Christian does not realize DeSantis has no respect for them, as he knows he can rely on their poor ethics. It puts these Christians on the bubble, do they follow Jesus, or do they follow MAGA? They want it both ways, but they are conflicting view points. Charity and greed do not work togther in the same mind, so these Christians must be suffering to reconcile their confusion.
 
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Yerda

Veteran Member
So, are you endorsing DeSantis quite disingenuous move as the Venezuelans were lied to as they were told they were being bussed to Boston for resettlement?
This is a disgraceful way to treat human beings.

The most revealing feature of the episode is the way right-wingers are completely unable to understand people having compassion for other humans unless it benefits them. They don't seem capable of accomodating the fact that helping others is for the sake of helping others. Vulnerable human beings are just tools for their use.
 

syo

Well-Known Member
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In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.
Filthy society that's based on whims. :fearscream:
 

Sheldon

Veteran Member
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In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.

Did this really need another thread?

Who were the Christians? De Santis's GOP or Martha's Vineyard plain folk?
 

AlexanderG

Active Member
What is your point here? Didn't the entire community come together and care for these immigrants until a more long term solution was organized? Don't you think caring for a family and their young children needs a different set of resources than providing lodging, restaurants, and clean beaches to tourists? An island town with a population of 15,000 is going to need some outside help to assist unexpected refugees.

We saw a Republican governor lie to desperate families and frighten them, for a political stunt. We saw a liberal community welcome and provide for these same families. I see no hypocrisy here, except for the so-called party of "family values." And in terms of racism...which party has all the open support of white supremacists, again?
 

Windwalker

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In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.
This is disgusting. You are ignoring the fact that they were sent they by being lied to, and treated as political props, as opposed to human beings, by DeSatanist and the Republicans as a political stunt? Let's not overlook this primary fact. They used humans beings, mistreated them as cattle, as subhumans. And they call themselves Christians!!

Now, furthermore, this crisis that they created was met by the Democrats there in Martha's Vineyard with the exact opposite soul than those who created this situation by exploiting these human beings as if they were props. They met them with compassion. They met them with food, with housing, with compassion, with love, with concern. In other words, unlike DeSatanist and his "Christian" buddies, they were actually being real, genuine Christians to these poor people!

Now that the sent the National Guard in to help them, was NOT to get rid of them. That is a lie! The residents were helping them. They didn't turn them away, and say not our problem. They fed them. They clothed them, just like Jesus taught that compassion humans, followers of him were to do - very unlike DeSatanist and friends. They created a humanitarian crisis, and the government had to help clean up the mess form this humanitarian crisis they created. Charges need to be brought against them for this!

Do do you research better, please.

Just listen to what they said actually happened in the first few minutes of the video. As a Christian, you should be utterly ashamed of this stunt by the Republicans.

 

sayak83

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View attachment 66659

In 36 hours, about 150 National Guardsmen were summoned to remove from Martha's Vineyard refugees.

In a place of millionaires that can take care of 80,000 tourists, there was no place in the Inn for 50 Venezuelans. Those who espoused love and inclusion apparently were saying "Inclusion so long as I don't have to deal with it".

At least that is what it appears like to me.
They acted as any moral community should...with hospitality and kindness which was followed by relocation to a permanent shelter.
Martha's Vineyard migrants: Donations poured in and volunteers rushed to help - CNN

"We received food, we received clothes, we received ... different things, so much so that we've had to relocate that donation drop-off spot to the fire department," Edgartown, Massachusetts, town administrator James Hagerty told CNN Wednesday.
Town officials had to post on social media they did not need more donations, Hagerty added, as items continued to pour in.
"I think that's a testament to the community of the island, and it's a testament to the citizens of Edgartown, it's a testament to everything that's going on now," he said.

Residents from across the island and other parts of the country raised more than $175,000 after the migrants' arrival, according to Beth Folcarelli, CEO of the nonprofit Martha's Vineyard Community Services. And while there were some large donations consisting of multiple thousands of dollars, most of the donations made for the migrants were contributions between $50 to $100, Folcarelli said.

On Friday, the migrants were transported to a military base to receive shelter and humanitarian support, officials said.
Before they left, all those who needed a cell phone were provided a mobile device with a US-based number, and they were all given a $50 Visa card, with the help of funds raised by the community, Folcarelli said.
"We did come together, and I think were able to organize really in a very short time, get things going for them," she added. "People stepped forward right away."

The only people who should be ashamed of themselves is the Republican leadership who actions in this case was beyond despicable. They will get their proper comeuppance in due time.
 

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
It still strikes me as wrong to make a list of
specifically which people one values. The
point is to name some, & not others.
The sign includes mention of everyone possible except White Straight Male Americans. And somehow, I don't see that as just an accidental oversight.
 
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