Kathryn
It was on fire when I laid down on it.
I haven't seen any evidence that those groups you listed are actively attempting to distance themselves from fundamentalist Christians and ensuring that fundies don't speak for Christianity.
You can google them if you're really interested. If you care to take the small amount of time that requires, you'll see that they are politically active groups.
By the way, just how does one "ensure that fundies don't speak for Christianity?" How does anyone ensure that some other group doesn't grab the microphone and claim to speak for the people?
Does Lady Gaga or Justin Beiber represent all of our current musical talent? Or do they just get good ratings?
I'm not the one claiming they are doing what you are claiming. Perhaps some of them are doing what you say. If so, I'd like to see it.
Google - it's so easy, even a caveman can do it!
Me? LOL! Maybe we're not clear here, but I personally find Christianity as a whole to be rather silly. If fundies are making it look even more so, all the better.
See, I'm pretty politically and socially active. But when issues come up that relate to Christianity in one form or another, guess who's always on the other side of the table? It ain't the Mennonites...
Maybe they're on the other side of the table because they are diametrically opposed to whatever your various political goals are - I don't know, because I don't know much about you or your views. If you're expecting Christians as a whole to be supportive of abortion on demand or gay marriage, or whatever other cause you may pull out of your hat, you may be expecting too much. Sure you'll find many Christians that DO support those causes, but by and large the majority won't.
Now - if you're talking about whether or not tax dollars should support some goofy Christian theme park, you're much more likely to get more broad support from more Christians.
But it sounds to me like you are basically pretty negative towards Christians and Christianity in general. If that's the case, then no wonder you get negative feedback and find Christians on the other side of the table. Sheeze.
Can you give a specific example of you actively opposing fundamentalist Christianity and speaking out against it?
My voting record. I could give more examples but frankly, I don't think I need to go on. I think most reasonable people would say that I've made a pretty clear point about how our lives and interactions with people on a daily basis can speak volumes. And I've also given specific examples already. I'm not going to elaborate further because it's becoming increasingly clear to me that you're not really listening.
Like I said, I don't have time to organize a Million Moderates March on Washington, DC - sorry.
Besides that, you don't play fair. You don't answer questions that I ask you. When you start doing that, I'll reciprocate.
So you're just fine with them being the public face of Christianity?
That's your take, not mine. I rarely even listen to them. I pay more attention to people with more validity. I know who represents my beliefs and who doesn't.
That's like saying to Jennifer Anniston, "So, you're just fine with Lindsey Lohan being the public face of the movie industry?"
So how are they not fundamentalists then?
See - I KNEW you didn't know the difference between conservatives and fundamentalists!
You stated that you didn't agree with those groups on some issues, but you won't say which ones? Why not?
Because I'm not going to go to each website, read their statement of faith, dissect it, and report back to you.
I'll give you one example though, off the top of my head. Abba Fund doesn't fund adoptions to gay couples, or to my knowledge, single parents, and I disagree with that portion of their mission.
And thus fundies seize the stage in your absence.
I'm not absent. You just don't run into me a lot because we have different friends and interests.
You do whatever you want. Polls show American youth are leaving Christianity in droves. That's just fine with me.
People are free to do as they please when it comes to religion, and I wouldn't have it any other way. Let freedom ring! If people leave Christianity in droves, then that's their decision and their right, and I fully support their right to do so.
All I can do is live my life as responsibly as possible and try to raise my own family well. So far I have five kids and they are all Christians. The two that are married with children actively practice their faith, as do two of the other three. I have a wild child, but even though he is living a lifestyle that I disapprove of, he still claims Christianity as his faith, and I will leave the judging of that faith between him and God.
Yet somehow she continues to drive political discourse and influence elections. Huh.
Yep, lots of goobers in politics. Biden and Palin spring immediately to mind.