A Universe from Nothing?

[Ben Dhyan]

Again your arrogance astounds me. You cannot conceive of the possibility that you are a poor communicator, so you have to blame your "audience". You are like a pompous preacher in a pulpit, you have to blame the congregation when they don't understand your naff rambling sermons.

But it is clear that your histrionics are really to distract from my earlier question about the big bang, you can't cope with any discussion which challenges your theistic beliefs.

Like your new-age chum you are only here to preach and pontificate, you instinctively launch ad-hom attacks on anyone who dares to challenge your strange pronouncements.

Ahhhh.....so it is my poor communications skills....not Ricky's poor reading skills...haha..

Now that I know you have deficient reading comprehension, I will factor that in when I post to you, and thus mitigate misunderstanding on both sides... cheers

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Ahhhh.....so it is my poor communications skills....not Ricky's poor reading skills...haha..

Yes, it is. Like I said, it would help if you could write in proper sentences and be more mindful of what you are posting.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Right, and however their behavior can be described, it certainly is, above all, pretty shabby.

Gross hypocrisy, again. YOU are the one who repeatedly patronises and insult other contributors, you simply cannot cope when your strange pronouncement are questioned. You are just a preachy new-ager on an ego-trip, a Chopra-clone. And like Chopra you are a fake, you remind me of a dodgy used-car salesman. Shame on you.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

But the real reason Space-Time did not exist is because they are conceptual, and arise only with man's rational mind."
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Utter nonsense, more new-age twaddle. Again you are shamelessly misrepresenting scientific ideas and then trying to muddle them in with ideas from Eastern religion. What you are preaching here is really a sort of pseudo-Hinduism, inspired by your hero, the charlatan Chopra.

You really don't care about the truth, you are just on an ego-trip. Shame on you.

 

[`mud]

BOYYYYY........There's a lot of crap coming that 'nothing',
I mean.......!!!!!!

 

[Rick O'Shez]

BOYYYYY........There's a lot of crap coming that 'nothing',
I mean.......!!!!!!

Make up your own mind. I spent a large chunk of my working life in social work, which means I have a well-developed BS meter. The Terrible Twins are full of it.

 

[godnotgod]

The same tiresome new age dogma, still with no evidence or reasoning. You are only here to preach your Chopra-inspired rhetoric, you are boring.

And yet you express such an avid interest in what I am saying. Would you like to start a fan club?

 

[godnotgod]

Make up your own mind. I spent a large chunk of my working life in social work, which means I have a well-developed BS meter.

A cop! Don't forget to puff out your chest when saying that. Free coffee and donuts available in the lobby.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

The worst fans are those that turn out to be stalkers..

 

[godnotgod]

New-age twaddle. Read up on "Atomic CLOCK", the clue is the name.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_clock

And you have conveniently ignored the rest of what I said. The fabric of the cosmos is described as "space-TIME", there is the "arrow of TIME" in cosmology, there is entropy, etc.

Time is not only a "concept", it is part of the fabric of the cosmos, it is change. If you try to imagine the universe WITHOUT passing time and change it will be immediately obvious that this is true. It would just be a universe frozen in one moment, with nothing happening, no movement, no change, nothing.

As usual you are grossly misrepresenting scientific ideas and then trying to muddle them in with ideas from Eastern religion, this is classic new-age behaviour. As usual you are drawing false equivalences and coming to nonsensical conclusions.

Space-Time is only conceptual and an illusion, as all 'change' is as well. You are being fooled by appearances. 30 years on your meditation mat and you still have failed to pierce the facade. Perhaps another 30 years.

You're not paying attention to what Quantum Physics is telling you: MATERIALIST REALITY IS AN ILLUSION!

 

[godnotgod]

Because I am tired of you launching personal attacks on people who challenge your Chopra-inspired twaddle, your incessant preaching of new-age dogma, your arrogance, your devious fabrications and childish tricks.

Not just a cop, but a Grand Inquisitor and self-appointed Hero to boot! Would you like a Certificate of Enlightenment for the wall behind your desk? .39 cents plus shipping and handling, or, get it free in every box of Crunchy Muddled-Brain Cereal.

 

[godnotgod]

And what exactly is the second part of the answer? If you really have this worked out you should be able to explain your reasoning succinctly and show the evidence for your claims.

So how do you get from quantum mechanics to your claims that:

1. Matter is a creation of consciousness;
2. The big bang was an event in consciousness?

What is your reasoning, and what is your evidence for these claims?

So let's have a succinct explanation in plain English. I have repeatedly requested this, but you have never provided it. So come on, put your money where your mouth is. Stop hiding behind new-age jargon, naff videos and obscure quotes.

You have to understand the first part first.

 

[godnotgod]

More new-age dogma, no evidence or reasoning to back it up. You have been preaching this stuff on RF for years, it is really just a muddle of new-age religious beliefs inspired by your hero, the charlatan Chopra.

If you can't provide coherent reasoning and evidence for you claims maybe you should just shut up and stop boring everyone.

Of course, that's what the Hindus told the Buddha when he told them that all phenomena is empty of inherent self-nature; what the Church told Galileo and Copernicus; and what the prisoners in Plato's Cave said to the one escaped dude who went topside to see the Sun for the first time.

 

[godnotgod]

Unsubstantiated new-age dogma. No evidence.

Does the activity of Consciousness leave a trace?

Did the Buddha provide evidence for Sunyata?

 

[Thief]

Space-Time is only conceptual and an illusion, as all 'change' is as well. You are being fooled by appearances. 30 years on your meditation mat and you still have failed to pierce the facade. Perhaps another 30 years.

You're not paying attention to what Quantum Physics is telling you: MATERIALIST REALITY IS AN ILLUSION!

that first portion of sentence is true

time does not exist

but maybe you haven't taken my advice about banging your head on the wall....
til it bleeds

reality is real
the creation of God is real
God is real

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Space-Time is only conceptual and an illusion, as all 'change' is as well. You are being fooled by appearances. 30 years on your meditation mat and you still have failed to pierce the facade. Perhaps another 30 years.

The same new-age dogma. Nothing to back it up. Your lame ad homs won't distract from the fact that your new-age BS has now been fully exposed and discredited.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Of course, that's what the Hindus told the Buddha when he told them that all phenomena is empty of inherent self-nature; what the Church told Galileo and Copernicus; and what the prisoners in Plato's Cave said to the one escaped dude who went topside to see the Sun for the first time.

Your arrogance is astounding. Delusions of grandeur. You need help.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

MATERIALIST REALITY IS AN ILLUSION

Drop a brick on your foot then. It might wake you up from your delusional ego-trip.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

You have to understand the first part first.

As I thought, there isn't a second part. What a fake you are, all smoke and mirrors.

Just like your hero, the charlatan Chopra, the snake-oil seller.

 

[Rick O'Shez]

Did the Buddha provide evidence for Sunyata?

So now you're admitting that sunyata contradicts your new age beliefs like "Cosmic Consciousness"?