you're making post to avoid the issue
You're only saying that to distract people from the real issue:
Considering i only ever replied to you because you misquoted a part of text and made assumptions about it, I called you out on it, you admitted to it. That's the only issue: Everything since then you've added on top of the original, expecting them to be the "original" issue. It really makes it seem like you're avoiding the issue.
You are illogical and irrational.
the debate begins at the beginning
What makes your highness think his question is the beginning? You haven't even elaborated your definitions, you refuse to accept the actual meaning for the word "substance" and at the same time you refuse to tell us what you mean by the word...
You yourself have made your question even more seemingly empty: You refuse to elaborate on your own question when asked. You don't KNOW how to elaborate. This is the only logical explanation:
You didn't think the question through, and are still too proud to admit that: You don't know when to quit. The question has been proven nonsensical by many people and you refuse to see it.
Your question is not the beginning: Your question is inane and empty. And you are completely incapable of explaining or defending it.
What do you mean by substance? Can you answer EVEN ONCE?!
Spirit first?
or substance?
shall we begin?
Substance = Reality, essence, significance, existence, tangible. *
IF YOUR CLAIM IS CORRECT* then spirit must be substance by definition. I.E it's substance because the moment you agreed to use English, you agreed to accept its definitions. You haven't presented an argument as to why your (still unseen) definition for substance counts and mine doesn't. I gave you dictionary examples, and you NEVER COUNTERED IT. Yet your post here is written as if you did counter it somehow.
If you want to get to the beginning, how about you first show us the evidence for spirit? Your entire question
assumes that you are right and others wrong by default: That your premise is correct
just because. At the moment your question is comparable to:
Unicorn first?
Or substance?
I've already answered this same question at least three times and you keep imagining that i haven't: You then just repeat the question like a parrot. Furthermore, this thread isn't about your question.
Also: I have shown with rational argument that your question is empty, inane and nonsensical. Your definitions are different from other people's definitions. You refuse to tell me what "substance" means after i specifically linked you to dictionary examples of what it means: You did not explain your definition at all. I showed evidence that the word "substance" doesn't mean what you think it does.
What does substance mean? Seriously. I did make a prediction that you would ignore ALL my questions addressed to you. And so far you've done exactly that. You ignore my long posts in their entirely and still think you're somehow arguing effectively? You don't even answer to any of my points with your silly replies: You just say whatever you can to give yourself the excuse to post that same question over and over again.
/E: Again, i make the claim that you use less effort in arguing your opposition than you expect from them. Again. You commonly reply before you've even had enough time to READ my replies.
Are you ACTUALLY proud of doing everything with the least possible effort, half-assed and with no forethought? Your improvisational skills leave MUCH to be desired so maybe you should consider actually THINKING your points through before letting everyone else know exactly how futile arguing with you truly is.
I waste my time with this essay only for you to construct a reply to this post in less than 5 minutes without reading any of the points, or without addressing any of them. I've answered your question at least 3 times so far and you keep repeating it like a parrot and IGNORING EVERYTHING I SAID.
You aren't even willing to learn: You are under the impression that you know something. Even scientists don't pretend to ACTUALLY know everything. BUT you do. You specifically seem to want to project an image of yourself on the forums that you're somehow a teacher and people should listen to you.
Based on this thread and others, i do make the claim that you aren't capable of actually making a rational argument to support your own claims. I'm going to be making the call that i don't think you've ever convinced anyone in your life...
TLDR: Thief. If you're going to quote me, read the post you are quoting, in its entirety, please. This is around the third or fourth time you quote a long post by me, and never answer any of the points the post contains. A few times you've posted so quickly that you couldn't have possibly read it AND made a reply to it... If you reply to this post again without reading it, how well do you think your point is going to be made if it's based on ignoring everything and demanding that others don't ignore you?