Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Best to self identify with the life of stuff that goes on......must reach true understanding sooner or later...
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A Universe from Nothing?
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godnotgod
Thou art That
You mean you had nothing to say after I exposed your erroneous take on the matter and set you straight, mouse.
Now go to your room!
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Quite the contrary. I found it to be the largely vapid rhetoric of desperation that did not warrant any meaningful response.You mean you had nothing to say after I exposed your erroneous take on the matter and set you straight, mouse.
Now go to your room!
godnotgod
Thou art That
Now you're just blowing smoke, mouse. Best quit while ahead.
Just for starters, I showed how you mistook 'asleep' for 'condemned';
how you mistook the awakened and that which is asleep as duality, when they are one and the same; and how you cleverly changed 'awakened' to 'the awakened one'. Want more proof of your erroneous take on things? Or is that enough?
You and Spiney seem to have a similar erroneous understanding of things. Are you sure you and he were not entangled in this direction in some previous incarnation in some far away universe?
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YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
When you decide to put some actual content into your driveling rhetoric, do let me know. For the third time, you are not very good at this and you really should quit while you think you are ahead.Now you're just blowing smoke, mouse. Best quit while ahead.
Just for starters, I showed how you mistook 'asleep' for 'condemned';
how you mistook the awakened and that which is asleep as duality, when they are one and the same; and how you cleverly changed 'awakened' to 'the awakened one'. Want more proof of your erroneous take on things? Or is that enough?
You and Spiney seem to have a similar erroneous understanding of things. Are you sure you and he were not entangled in this direction in some previous incarnation in some far away universe?
godnotgod
Thou art That
I'm not here to impress you with acrobatics.
Interesting that you think you're good at it, whatever that is.
So for the record, we will leave it at that: bottom line: you choose to completely ignore the fact that:
1. I showed how you mistook 'asleep' for 'condemned';
2. how you mistook the awakened and that which is asleep as duality, when they are one and the same;
3. and how you cleverly changed 'awakened' to 'the awakened one'.
Nice performance, mouse.
Now go to your room!
godnotgod
Thou art That
“We live in illusion and the appearance of things. There is a reality. We are that reality. When you understand this, you see that you are nothing, and being nothing, you are everything. That is all.”
Kalu Rinpoche
godnotgod
Thou art That
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
We could pretend to be different aspects of the perfection and then play hide and seek.....we need to seek the truth because we are simultaneously hiding from it......therefore, there is nothing to do.
godnotgod
Thou art That
We could pretend to be different aspects of the perfection and then play hide and seek.....we need to seek the truth because we are simultaneously hiding from it...
...and then when we find out who we really are, we'll enjoy the ecstasy and have a Big Hearty Laugh on ourselves.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
On ourselves yes.....it is such a realistic game it scared the living hell out of me...
If God created the universe there should be evidence linking "Him" to the Universe. If Science can't prove how the universe started then There is no way in actually knowing...There can be hundreds of theories and none of them are proven...All our questions will be answered only when we close our eyes for one last time
godnotgod
Thou art That
Not to worry; we'll all be entangled. Communication will be signal-less and faster than the speed of light. Thus is our inheritance.
'For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Universe'
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james bond
Well-Known Member
Why can't a creator be a theory? You're just presenting a strawman saying it's not science. The idea of falsification is being challenged because it eliminates ideas such as the multiverse, something from nothing and other theories from being discussed. Even Karl Popper started to question it.
GK Chesterton (who first proposed falsifiability), a creationist and author, said it best,
"Science is weak about these prehistoric things in a way that has hardly been noticed. The science whose modern marvels we all admire succeeds by incessantly adding to its data. In all practical inventions, in most natural discoveries, it can always increase evidence by experiment. But it cannot experiment in making men; or even in watching to see what the first men make. An inventor can advance step by step in the construction of an aeroplane, even if he is only experimenting with sticks and scraps of metal in his own back-yard. But he cannot watch the Missing Link evolving in his own back-yard. If he has made a mistake in his calculations, the aeroplane will correct it by crashing to the ground. But if he has made a mistake about the arboreal habitat of his ancestor, he cannot see his arboreal ancestor falling off the tree. He cannot keep a cave-man like a cat in the back-yard and watch him to see whether he does really practice cannibalism or carry off his mate on the principles of marriage by capture. He cannot keep a tribe of primitive men like a pack of hounds and notice how far they are influenced by the herd instinct. If he sees a particular bird behave in a particular way, he can get other birds and see if they behave in that way; but if he finds a skull, or the scrap of a skull, in the hollow of a hill, he cannot multiply it into a vision of the valley of dry bones. In dealing with a past that has almost entirely perished, he can only go by evidence and not by experiment. And there is hardly enough evidence to be even evidential. Thus while most science moves in a sort of curve, being constantly corrected by new evidence, this science flies off into space in a straight line uncorrected by anything. But the habit of forming conclusions, as they can really be formed in more fruitful fields, is so fixed in the scientific mind that it cannot resist talking like this. It talks about the idea suggested by one scrap of bone as if it were something like the aeroplane which is constructed at last out of whole scrapheaps of scraps of metal. The trouble with the professor of the prehistoric is that he cannot scrap his scrap. The marvellous and triumphant aeroplane is made out of a hundred mistakes. The student of origins can only make one mistake and stick to it." G.K. Chesterton, Everlasting Man, II
james bond
Well-Known Member
It's not just that, so the Bible is not poppycock, but evolution is. The mountain of evidence is a myth.
I am afraid not.
Ciao
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