A Universe from Nothing?

[ChristineM]

Haha...sorry Christine, but if you do not even know what a metaphor is, why are we even having this discussion. How old are you if I may ask?

Your incoherent response shows you do not understand what is being said to you in simple English. What metaphor are you referring to? Wow, you understand that even if the meteor was not seen, it would still have burnt up...how astute is that. What relevance has that got to add of subtract from what I explained, and what relevance does the fact that the meteor probably existed for yonks before humans were around to have seen it burn up have also?

There you go again lying through your butt to cover your lack of knowledge, you really are a pathetic loser.

 

[ChristineM]

Your question was....Do you really think I'm as stupid as you wish? I ultimately did answer it, perhaps it was too subtle, I said my wish would be that you were not stupid.

Please explain where you see my explanation of the reality represented by the concept of time is based on God, magic, and mythology? And as a bonus to your education, you are informed that your attempt to conflate my perfectly secular based explanations wrt time with God, magic, and mythology, is what is known as a strawman argument. And a pathetic one at that.

nuts, you don't comprehend so you vomit hyperbole in a sad attempt to hide your ignorance, you are such a pathetic loser.

 

[ChristineM]

and I was hoping for more than a word game

Well provide something to play with, something factual, not the made up nonsense you've put on the game board to date.
No one can discuss deliberate ignorance backed up with incredulity

 

[ChristineM]

so....drop some physical evidence for us

time in a bottle?

can be generated?......got a time machine?

Yes, it's called the second law of thermodynamics, and is driven known facts and mathematical modelling. Perhaps you've heard of them, decided they are too contentious for your make believe so promptly forgot them.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

There you go again lying through your butt to cover your lack of knowledge, you really are a pathetic loser.

Calling me a liar is not a reasonable answer to my inquiry as to what metaphor you were referring to. So once again, what metaphor are you talking about?

 

[ChristineM]

Calling me a liar is not a reasonable answer to my inquiry as to what metaphor you were referring to. So once again, what metaphor are you talking about?

It is when you lie.

If you are unaware of your repeated use of metaphor to mask your ignorance then that's your own problem

 

[Ben Dhyan]

nuts, you don't comprehend so you vomit hyperbole in a sad attempt to hide your ignorance, you are such a pathetic loser.

Calling me nuts is not a reasonable explanation as to where it was that I based my understanding of the reality represented by the concept of time on God, magic, and mythology? So once again, where was it that you claim I did this?

 

[Ben Dhyan]

It is when you lie.

If you are unaware of your repeated use of metaphor to mask your ignorance then that's your own problem

Why is asking what metaphor you are referring to, a lie? Oh, and please tell us the metaphor you are referring to?

 

[ChristineM]

Why is asking what metaphor you are referring to, a lie? Oh, and please tell us the metaphor you are referring to?

Do you have a comprehension problem, most people would have realised by now that i have stopped banging my head on a wall.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Do you have a comprehension problem, most people would have realised by now that i have stopped banging my head on a wall.

No I do not have a comprehension problem, you called me a liar. Why is asking about the metaphor you claimed I used a lie?

 

[Thief]

Yes, it's called the second law of thermodynamics, and is driven known facts and mathematical modelling. Perhaps you've heard of them, decided they are too contentious for your make believe so promptly forgot them.

there are a limited numbers of forces
time is not one of them

you are confusing calculation with reality

 

[Thief]

Do you have a comprehension problem, most people would have realised by now that i have stopped banging my head on a wall.

maybe you should try that again

 

[Regolith Based Lifeforms]

maybe you should try that again

X

 

[ChristineM]

No I do not have a comprehension problem, you called me a liar. Why is asking about the metaphor you claimed I used a lie?

Yes, and what?

 

[ChristineM]

maybe you should try that again

No need, fact does it for me.

 

[ChristineM]

there are a limited numbers of forces
time is not one of them

you are confusing calculation with reality

What have forces to do with it?

The 2nd law of thermodynamics states that in a closed system entropy can only increase, the arrow of time is the direction that entropy takes.

Learn some science 101 before pontificating on scientific subjects

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Yes, and what?

....

 

[gnostic]

I am not attempting to change your mind
no acceptance required on your part

We have been asking for answers as to what are "spirit" and "substance", but you keep being evasive on how you would define them, no explanation.

It is not about acceptance but about clarification, something you still have not done.

 

[gnostic]

there are a limited numbers of forces
time is not one of them

you are confusing calculation with reality

Sorry, but no one claim that "time" is a "force".

There are several different forces, but even Newtonian mechanic and gravitational theory on motion, indicate force is required to "force" a body to move from rest, so the object has mass and acceleration (or deceleration) symbol "a", or gravity "g" to set motion.

Whether it be acceleration or gravity, both required speed, therefore "time" is a factor.

"Time" is not force, but there can be no force without acceleration, and no acceleration without "time".

So "time" is part of the factor in measuring force upon object, in Newtonian mechanics.

Forces may be different and measure differently with forces in electromagnetism (instead of mass of object, electric fields and magnetic fields are what caused EM forces and energy) and in particle and quantum physics (eg strong and weak nuclei forces), but "time" still played essential parts in those respective fields.

 

[Thief]

We have been asking for answers as to what are "spirit" and "substance", but you keep being evasive on how you would define them, no explanation.

It is not about acceptance but about clarification, something you still have not done.

and you really need definition for spirit and substance?

and at the same time (believe) you can come out on top in this discussion?