Abortion

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Yes.

Then you know - or ought to know - that your belief is incorrect.

You can set up a will so that it refers to unspecified future children (or grandchildren, etc.) who haven't been born when the will is written, but when you die, only the children who have been born at that point will inherit anything.

In a similar way, you can't name an "unborn child" as a beneficiary for life insurance.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Being a transgender male can get pregnant, pregnant people sounds better than pregnant men.
Pregnant people also sounds better than birthing people or people with uteruses.

You gotta be politically correct ya know

"People with uteruses" is fine in context, but most people with uteruses aren't pregnant.

 

[Kathryn]

Then you know - or ought to know - that your belief is incorrect.

You can set up a will so that it refers to unspecified future children (or grandchildren, etc.) who haven't been born when the will is written, but when you die, only the children who have been born at that point will inherit anything.

In a similar way, you can't name an "unborn child" as a beneficiary for life insurance.

Actually if a person dies without a will, any child that is still unborn is a beneficiary in the US.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Actually if a person dies without a will, any child that is still unborn is a beneficiary in the US.

I'm sure it's all true. Where are you getting this from?

 

[Kathryn]

I'm sure it's all true. Where are you getting this from?

My search engine is Bing.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

My search engine is Bing.

Not what I meant, but I'm guessing you knew that.

What site that you found on Bing told you what you're saying?

I ask because I think there's a very good chance you misunderstood what you read, but I can't tell for sure without seeing what you read.

 

[Kathryn]

Not what I meant, but I'm guessing you knew that.

What site that you found on Bing told you what you're saying?

I ask because I think there's a very good chance you misunderstood what you read, but I can't tell for sure without seeing what you read.

There are multiple sources. I'll name just a few:

18 U.S. Code § 1841 - Protection of unborn children

www.law.cornell.edu

Opinion | What Makes a Fetus a Person? (Published 2022)

The unborn child’s state of existential dependence upon its mother, not its autonomy, makes it especially entitled to care, nurture and legal protection.

www.nytimes.com

Inheritance Services and Wealth Management | Fidelity

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www.fidelity.com

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

There are multiple sources. I'll name just a few:

18 U.S. Code § 1841 - Protection of unborn children

www.law.cornell.edu

Opinion | What Makes a Fetus a Person? (Published 2022)

The unborn child’s state of existential dependence upon its mother, not its autonomy, makes it especially entitled to care, nurture and legal protection.

www.nytimes.com

Inheritance Services and Wealth Management | Fidelity

As an inheritor, you may have new investment decisions to make. Let Fidelity be your trusted partner every step of the way, with our broad range of financial and wealth planning options.

www.fidelity.com

Okay - so you didn't just misread something; you pulled an opinion out of your butt that you hoped was right, but didn't bother to check. Am I right?

None of your sources have anything to do with what you're saying.

 

[Kathryn]

Okay - so you didn't just misread something; you pulled an opinion out of your butt that you hoped was right, but didn't bother to check. Am I right?

None of your sources have anything to do with what you're saying.

No, you are not right.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

No, you are not right.

Well, that's the impression you've created.

 

[Kathryn]

Well, that's the impression you've created.

To you, who I frankly don't care about very much.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Okay - so you didn't just misread something; you pulled an opinion out of your butt that you hoped was right, but didn't bother to check. Am I right?

None of your sources have anything to do with what you're saying.

Well, I found this and actually read it, so here is the relevant part:
"
Unborn children and assisted reproduction
A child born after a decedent dies can still be included in the estate. The child must be in utero at the time of the decedent's death. In utero means developing in the womb, but not born yet.

The child can also be counted if it was created with assisted reproduction. The child will be included if:

The decedent is the biological parent of the child (the sperm or egg of the decedent was used to create the child),
The child is born within 36 months of the decedent's death,
The decedent consented in writing before death to be a legal parent of any potential child created from their sperm or egg, and
The administrator of the estate receives a written notice with a copy of the decedent's written consent within six months of the decedent's death."

What happens when I die without a will?

Explains how an estate is divided if a person dies without a will.

www.illinoislegalaid.org

So there are 2 different variants of unborn child in play and not just one. At least for this site.

 

[We Never Know]

"People with uteruses" is fine in context, but most people with uteruses aren't pregnant.

That's interesting.

You seem to like 'pregnant people' even though the majority of people can't get/aren't pregnant.

But seem to not like 'people with uteruses' even though its people with uteruses that can/do get pregnant.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Touchy topic, I know.
I am making this thread because I would like pro-choicers to help me better understand the pro-choice position.
][/SPOILER]

To me the Bible's position is that abortion is a High Crime in God's eyes " IF " abortion is for selfish reasons
Abortion would be wrong to abort just because of an un-wanted child

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

To me the Bible's position is that abortion is a High Crime in God's eyes " IF " abortion is for selfish reasons
Abortion would be wrong to abort just because of an un-wanted child

What's the Bible's position on judging others? Is what you're doing now a "High Crime in God's Eyes"?

I ask because while I can't think of a single point in the Gospels where Jesus says anything at all about abortion, I can think of several where he condemns the kind of behaviour you're doing now.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

What's the Bible's position on judging others? Is what you're doing now a "High Crime in God's Eyes"?
I ask because while I can't think of a single point in the Gospels where Jesus says anything at all about abortion, I can think of several where he condemns the kind of behaviour you're doing now.

Where does Jesus teach it is right to be SELFISH ____________________
God's judgement (thou shall Not murder) is in the Bible, and Jesus believed Scripture is God's Word at John 17:17
Thus, it would be a High Crime in God's eyes to abort for SELFISH reasons - Exodus 21:23
SELFISH such as just to abort for the SELFISH reason just to be rid of an un-wanted child

At Psalm 82 human judges were to use God's judgement to judge right from wrong
Those human judges were to serve in the capacity of representing or of being a spokesmen for God
Not all abortions are for SELFISH reasons

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Where does Jesus teach it is right to be SELFISH ____________________
God's judgement (thou shall Not murder) is in the Bible, and Jesus believed Scripture is God's Word at John 17:17
Thus, it would be a High Crime in God's eyes to abort for SELFISH reasons - Exodus 21:23
SELFISH such as just to abort for the SELFISH reason just to be rid of an un-wanted child

At Psalm 82 human judges were to use God's judgement to judge right from wrong
Those human judges were to serve in the capacity of representing or of being a spokesmen for God
Not all abortions are for SELFISH reasons

He's talking about what you're doing here:

3 Why do you see the speck in your neighbour's eye, but do not notice the log in your own eye?
4 Or how can you say to your neighbour, "Let me take the speck out of your eye", while the log is in your own eye?
5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbour's eye.

 

[McBell]

The meat?

You seem to be upset because I ignored "the meat" of you asking "And why did you use "that" instead of "those" and "it" instead of "them"?"

So no, I did not ask the picture of the ursine embryo about it's pronoun preferences.

I guess that makes me a bad person.

You claimed it is a plural, not an individual, yet when referring to the plural you use individual wording.

So it has absolutely nothing to do with the unborns preferred pronouns.

Since you are obviously not interested in honest discourse, I am done.

Have a nice day.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

It affects me very much. I have to live in this world you know.

It doesn't effect you.

Pregnant women usually don't like to be called pregnant people. It sounds ridiculous

To you.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I had to back to something:

At Psalm 82 human judges were to use God's judgement to judge right from wrong
Those human judges were to serve in the capacity of representing or of being a spokesmen for God

So you're saying that you are a self-appointed spokesman for God?

What does the Bible say about hubris?