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Adam and Eve Origins

Muffled

Jesus in me
Apparently if you get a DNA test, to trace your national heritage, african appears somewhere for everyone. This is linked with the idea that all lines originate from Africa when all the continents were all joined and one.

This kind of relates to the question of why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? They could have been African, they were not white at the very least. Same with Jesus, he was not born in a white country yet every image I see he is depicted as a white man with golden brown hair.

If Adam and Eve really did exist, where would they have resided?

I believe I don't remember seeing any African in my breakdown and I suspect the idea that everyone's origin is in Africa is more fantasy than reality.

I believe that depiction is pure fantasy based on ethnic bias.

If my understanding of the DNA is correct, the origin is Asian.

I believe it is most likely they were red since they might have ancestry in common with American Indians.

I believe every ethnic group tends to picture Jesus as one of their own.

I believe when they left the Garden of Eden they traveled south to Mesopotamia.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
I believe I don't remember seeing any African in my breakdown and I suspect the idea that everyone's origin is in Africa is more fantasy than reality.


What those tests look for is mutations that have accumulated in the African populations since the migration of Africans out of Africa.

If my understanding of the DNA is correct, the origin is Asian.


I believe it is most likely they were red since they might have ancestry in common with American Indians.

I believe every ethnic group tends to picture Jesus as one of their own.

I believe when they left the Garden of Eden they traveled south to Mesopotamia.

Your understanding is wrong. The trunk of the modern human family tree goes back to Africa.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Adam and Eve are from the mesopotamia. Its called the 'cradle of civilisation' and takes in countries such as Iraq, Turkey & Syria

I dont believe they would have had the appearance of black africans. They would have been middle eastern in appearance....from a middle eastern appearance, skin colour can go darker or lighter... so its more likely that Adam and Eve were closer to the middle spectrum of the colour range.

I don't believe there is any indication where the blood clot was found. The gods mostly hung around Asia (most likely the Caucasius area) and created the garden in that area as well but they could have found the blood clot anywhere.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me

What those tests look for is mutations that have accumulated in the African populations since the migration of Africans out of Africa.



Your understanding is wrong. The trunk of the modern human family tree goes back to Africa.

I believe saying it is so does not make it so. Without proof you are just whistling dixie.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
I believe saying it is so does not make it so. Without proof you are just whistling dixie.

The proof is out there if you are willing to look.

"New research confirms the "Out Of Africa" hypothesis that all modern humans stem from a single group of Homo sapiens who emigrated from Africa 2,000 generations ago and spread throughout Eurasia over thousands of years. These settlers replaced other early humans (such as Neanderthals), rather than interbreeding with them."
New Research Confirms 'Out Of Africa' Theory Of Human Evolution
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
Adam and Eve are from the mesopotamia. Its called the 'cradle of civilisation' and takes in countries such as Iraq, Turkey & Syria

I dont believe they would have had the appearance of black africans. They would have been middle eastern in appearance....from a middle eastern appearance, skin colour can go darker or lighter... so its more likely that Adam and Eve were closer to the middle spectrum of the colour range.
There is no legitimate anthropological reason to believe that any “first human” would have come from Mesopotamia.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
The proof is out there if you are willing to look.

"New research confirms the "Out Of Africa" hypothesis that all modern humans stem from a single group of Homo sapiens who emigrated from Africa 2,000 generations ago and spread throughout Eurasia over thousands of years. These settlers replaced other early humans (such as Neanderthals), rather than interbreeding with them."
New Research Confirms 'Out Of Africa' Theory Of Human Evolution

I believe it already incriminated itself by saying it is a theory of evolution. The idea is to try to force the facts to fit the theory.

The truth is that actual pedigrees do not go back that far so it isn't actual evidence of something passed on from parents to children. It is guessing what might have happened. Even with pedigrees I am finding difficulty in figuring out what DNA cam from which parent and then it is still not direct evidence.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
There is no legitimate anthropological reason to believe that any “first human” would have come from Mesopotamia.

I believe as far as saying Homo Erectus the indications are Africa but Adam and Eve were called humans by the gods and that was the first time the term was used and not in reference to the general public or the gods themselves.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
I believe as far as saying Homo Erectus the indications are Africa but Adam and Eve were called humans by the gods and that was the first time the term was used and not in reference to the general public or the gods themselves.
That’s because the ancients who created the myth didn’t know about proto-humans.
 

outlawState

Deism is dead
If Adam and Eve really did exist, where would they have resided?
Sumer, is the best guess. They were products of the Sumer civilization, and they were not the first "homosapiens" which is a wrong interpretation of Gen 2. Adam and Eve were the first priests of God.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
I believe it already incriminated itself by saying it is a theory of evolution. The idea is to try to force the facts to fit the theory.

You are incriminating yourself by flatly rejecting the theory of evolution for no apparent reason.

The truth is that actual pedigrees do not go back that far so it isn't actual evidence of something passed on from parents to children. It is guessing what might have happened. Even with pedigrees I am finding difficulty in figuring out what DNA cam from which parent and then it is still not direct evidence.

Any evidence to back up these claims?
 

Joel John

New Member
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Apparently if you get a DNA test, to trace your national heritage, african appears somewhere for everyone. This is linked with the idea that all lines originate from Africa when all the continents were all joined and one.

This kind of relates to the question of why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? They could have been African, they were not white at the very least. Same with Jesus, he was not born in a white country yet every image I see he is depicted as a white man with golden brown hair.


Regarding the facial color of Jesus, nobody exactly knows the color of his face. Different artists just assume him to be white. From, the Bible itself we have evidences showing that he had no beauty to be desired of

".......He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him." (Isaih 53:2)
 

Guy Threepwood

Mighty Pirate
Apparently if you get a DNA test, to trace your national heritage, african appears somewhere for everyone. This is linked with the idea that all lines originate from Africa when all the continents were all joined and one.

This kind of relates to the question of why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? They could have been African, they were not white at the very least. Same with Jesus, he was not born in a white country yet every image I see he is depicted as a white man with golden brown hair.

If Adam and Eve really did exist, where would they have resided?



Controversial footprints suggest we evolved in Europe not Africa
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Those footprints are over 5 million years old. Modern humans emerged about 200k years ago. That's a pretty big time gap.

We also know from DNA evidence that modern humans trace back to Africa. No footprint changes this conclusion.

The footprints only show that a species of apes lived outside of Africa at the time. There is no reason that apes have to live in Africa. Species of apes have migrated from there more than once. This was most likely the misinterpretation of an overly ambitious science journalist.
 

Thermos aquaticus

Well-Known Member
The footprints only show that a species of apes lived outside of Africa at the time. There is no reason that apes have to live in Africa. Species of apes have migrated from there more than once. This was most likely the misinterpretation of an overly ambitious science journalist.

Precisely. Footprints can't tell us who their descendants are or were. Only DNA can do that, and the DNA evidence clearly points to modern humans migrating out of Africa.

Map of Human Migration
 
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