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Alarming Report: 1,400 Kids Sexually Exploited In UK Town

Alceste

Vagabond
Either that, or it's covered up and/or people end up "mysteriously" dead like in the Marc Dutroux and Larry King (no, not that Larry King) investigations, which were bringing to light child rape and snuff film rings involving very elite people. Those investigations were quickly squashed.

Oh, I know it. I've been to some very dark places on the internet. I once started by looking up Bohemian Grove after a casual conversation with a friend who I thought was full of ****, and it all went very disturbing and weird, fast.

Edit: and I should mention that my friend wasn't talking about any allegations of abuse. Just the details that are a matter of public record already. It's just a very short step, that's all I'm saying.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Oh, I know it. I've been to some very dark places on the internet. I once started by looking up Bohemian Grove after a casual conversation with a friend who I thought was full of ****, and it all went very disturbing and weird, fast.

You and me, both. I got heavily involved in the whole conspiracy scene thinks to coming across David Icke when I was about 12. Eventually, I realized that a lot of it is nonsense, but certainly not all of it. You just have to be discerning.

You may enjoy this site: https://wikispooks.com/ISGP/about.htm (It appears to be down right now. It was up last night. It'll come back.)
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
If things never got better, you would be in front of a stove rather than in front of a computer.

we shouldnt measure the civility of a society by the technology it uses.

Civility should be measured by how they treat their most vulnerable.
 

cottage

Well-Known Member
That's a problem. If I go into a police station and report a crime, and give a description of the suspect, obviously the police HAVE TO take that description to heart in pursuing the perpetrator.

The issue here seems to be that they made no effort to investigate the crimes at all, not that they were afraid to say "Pakistani".

That was not the case at all! Councils in England, particularly those that are Labour run, are absolutely petrified of being shown the 'race card'. The dogma of multiculturalism runs deep through all Local Authorities in the UK, the underlying concept of which is underwritten by central government, to such an extent that it must not on any account be seen as failing. Months ago when these allegations first saw the light of day they were played down; so-called Community Spokesmen appeared on British TV to denounce any Pakistani involvement, and left-leaning commentators were wheeled out to say the use of ethnic terms 'was unhelpful.' Similarly the police, who have become a tool of the politicians and overreact to any situation that might conceivably be considered racist, become inert or consult with community leaders instead of applying the law even-handedly and consistently. It is the evils of political correctness that has allowed this monstrous injustice to go on for so long.

Having perused quite a few UK social services files in a mostly white county, I don't think the problem of civil servants not taking the sexual abuse of children seriously is limited to areas with a lot of Pakistani immigrants. I've seen more than my fair share of files that screamed "cover up", especially at risk children in care.

It seems that in the UK in general, civil servants tend not to take allegations sexual abuse very seriously, regardless of their origin. The files I read were filled with frank accounts related by children, followed by social service workers hemming and hawing over whether it actually happened as reported, and then having no idea what to do about it either way.

Social Services in the UK is in a mess; children are being removed from families sometimes for the most trivial reasons. Time and time again the spectre of political correctness has been at the bottom of these chld-snatchings, and under a particular statutory instrument in Family Law it is an offence punishable by imprisonment to report or even to discuss these cases.

I am of course NOT saying this problem is not well represented by this particular case involving a Pakistani community. I just don't think this is the ONLY such problem, and thinking of it as a Pakistani problem is letting a hell of a lot of white, full-blooded English sex abusers off the hook.

I sorry but your post has enraged me because it is so far removed from the sinister truth of what is occurring on the ground here in Britain. It isn't about Pakistani men being 'well represented' - a politically correct term if ever there was one! But it is, as it has now at last been revealed, a very serious problem with Pakistani men that are sexually constrained by their own culture and traditions but see white women as easy and an outlet for their desires. Only by facing up to the problem can it be dealt with, because no amount of PC generalising is going to protect those vulnerable young women whose lives have been ruined forever.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
That was not the case at all! Councils in England, particularly those that are Labour run, are absolutely petrified of being shown the 'race card'. The dogma of multiculturalism runs deep through all Local Authorities in the UK, the underlying concept of which is underwritten by central government, to such an extent that it must not on any account be seen as failing. Months ago when these allegations first saw the light of day they were played down; so-called Community Spokesmen appeared on British TV to denounce any Pakistani involvement, and left-leaning commentators were wheeled out to say the use of ethnic terms 'was unhelpful.' Similarly the police, who have become a tool of the politicians and overreact to any situation that might conceivably be considered racist, become inert or consult with community leaders instead of applying the law even-handedly and consistently. It is the evils of political correctness that has allowed this monstrous injustice to go on for so long.



Social Services in the UK is in a mess; children are being removed from families sometimes for the most trivial reasons. Time and time again the spectre of political correctness has been at the bottom of these chld-snatchings, and under a particular statutory instrument in Family Law it is an offence punishable by imprisonment to report or even to discuss these cases.



I sorry but your post has enraged me because it is so far removed from the sinister truth of what is occurring on the ground here in Britain. It isn't about Pakistani men being 'well represented' - a politically correct term if ever there was one! But it is, as it has now at last been revealed, a very serious problem with Pakistani men that are sexually constrained by their own culture and traditions but see white women as easy and an outlet for their desires. Only by facing up to the problem can it be dealt with, because no amount of PC generalising is going to protect those vulnerable young women whose lives have been ruined forever.

As I said, I read hundreds of social services files in my job there. I can reassure you that kids are not removed from their homes for no reason. The reason is always abuse, and the nature of it often sexual.

I must disappoint you in that child sexual abuse is not limited to Pakistani communities. Far from it. Full blooded English people also sexually abuse children and authorities are extremely squeamish about the entire subject.

That doesn't make these particular crimes less horrific. It is simply a fact with which one's opinions must contend.

Also, you may need to reread the sentence containing the phrase "well represented ". You've misunderstood it.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Sexual abuse by Churches, orphanages, care homes, youth Detention centres. Australian immigrant child slaves. child soldiers and child wives supplied to terrorists,rape of girls in india, Sex abuse by celebrities and those in authority, are now joined by Pakistani gangs.

None of this is new it goes on in every country in the world...
It is more a case of who will be exposed next than to do with liberal values.

It has gone on as much in the USA as anywhere else... though those at the top have been better at closing ranks about it.

The number of people who have been caught and punished is infinitesimal in comparison to the numbers of children caught up in these things or compared to their suffering involved.


It is not a "liberal" thing. No one does any thing anywhere, till it is rubbed in their faces.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
we shouldnt measure the civility of a society by the technology it uses.

Technology has nothing to do with the point of my statement.

I was alluding to the treatment and attitudes toward women and their perceived roles in the past compared to present day.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Sexual abuse by Churches, orphanages, care homes, youth Detention centres. Australian immigrant child slaves. child soldiers and child wives supplied to terrorists,rape of girls in india, Sex abuse by celebrities and those in authority, are now joined by Pakistani gangs.

None of this is new it goes on in every country in the world...
It is more a case of who will be exposed next than to do with liberal values.

It has gone on as much in the USA as anywhere else... though those at the top have been better at closing ranks about it.

The number of people who have been caught and punished is infinitesimal in comparison to the numbers of children caught up in these things or compared to their suffering involved.


It is not a "liberal" thing. No one does any thing anywhere, till it is rubbed in their faces.

Exactly this. It took 20 years for the UK to catch Fred West, and almost a decade for Vancouver to catch Robert Pickton. In both cases, women who had escaped or been let go told police exactly who to look for and were ignored. An aunt of one of Pickton's victims investigated on her own and made it all the way to Pickton's farm where the bodies were buried. That was years before the police lifted a finger.

There's something really wrong, and it's nothing to do with liberalism. In general, liberalism isn't something police are particularly famous for.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Mmhmm. The Franklin child prostitution case. He's the one who ran that credit union that he embezzled money from. He was said to be pimping out kids from Boystown to politically prominent people.

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Yeah, I saw that a long time ago now. A truly disturbing case...
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Yeah, I saw that a long time ago now. A truly disturbing case...

Yeah, if authorities are uncomfortable investigating clergy and ordinary Pakistani sexual predators, just imagine how they feel about congressmen and senators.
 

Shuttlecraft

.Navigator
Many Brit (and US) councils are infiltrated by commies who stick with their creed and will do all they can to disrupt family life and values around the world-

"Destroy the family, you destroy the country"- Lenin
"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold:
its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life.
If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."
-Joseph Stalin
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Many Brit (and US) councils are infiltrated by commies who stick with their creed and will do all they can to disrupt family life and values around the world-

"Destroy the family, you destroy the country"- Lenin
"America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold:
its patriotism, its morality and its spiritual life.
If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within."
-Joseph Stalin

And now that we've heard from the John Birch Society...:facepalm:
 

Shuttlecraft

.Navigator
Imagine if there were 20,000 commies on US soil.
There ARE!
And many of them are in positions of influence in the education system, TV and film production, the media, politics etc..

"The Communist Party USA is a Marxist-Leninist political party in the United States.
It has about 20,000 members today"..
Communist Party USA - RationalWiki
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Many Brit (and US) councils are infiltrated by commies who stick with their creed and will do all they can to disrupt family life and values around the world-

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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Imagine if there were 20,000 commies on US soil.
There ARE!
And many of them are in positions of influence in the education system, TV and film production, the media, politics etc..

"The Communist Party USA is a Marxist-Leninist political party in the United States.
It has about 20,000 members today"..
Communist Party USA - RationalWiki

So what? I'm a communist, too. We don't have any power in this country. Politics and media is all run by capitalist rich people.
 
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Shuttlecraft

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So what? I'm a communist, too. We don't have any power in this country. Politics and media is all run by capitalist rich people.

Ah, but commies don't all have to be politicians, they simply need to be in positions of influence in TV, films, the media, social services etc.
For example Brit BBC TV is commie to the core, and in one episode of Dr Who, he said two of the American founding fathers were gay!
I'm surprised the yanks let BBC TV get away with that wthout raising hell, I hope they haven't gone soft..;)

PS- anyway hasn't communism been a flop in every country it's been tried? Beats me why anybody would want to be a commie!
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Ah, but commies don't all have to be politicians, they simply need to be in positions of influence in TV, films, the media, social services etc.
For example Brit BBC TV is commie to the core, and in one episode of Dr Who, he said two of the American founding fathers were gay!
I'm surprised the yanks let BBC TV get away with that wthout rasing hell, I hope they haven't gone soft..;)
Nonsense.
 

Shuttlecraft

.Navigator
Nonsense.

No it's true, Dr Who did say two of the founding fathers were gay! -
"The Impossible Astronaut" (Epi 1, Series 6, (Matt Smith) broadcast worldwide in 2011)

The Doctor: "Jefferson, Adams, Hamilton"

River: "Surnames of three of America's Founding Fathers"

The Doctor: "Lovely fellas. Two of them fancied me"
 
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