All Bathrooms Gender Neutral: Good Idea or Bad Idea?

[Nymphs]

Feel free to reread the OP.
Notice the word "All".

Tom

And I'm saying NOT all.

 

[Sunstone]

I've seen disgusting women's rooms before. But besides toilets being clogged with urine, feces and toilet paper, you get the added bonus of blood with tampons as the cherry on top.

Gee, Thanks, Frank! I think I'll pass up supper tonight.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Gee, Thanks, Frank! I think I'll pass up supper tonight.

Lol! You're ever so welcome, Phil.

 

[columbus]

I've seen disgusting women's rooms before. But besides toilets being clogged with urine, feces and toilet paper, you get the added bonus of blood with tampons as the cherry on top.

I might have to take cynthiacyphers advice and get a gun.

I've never been the violent type. But I'm not even willing to pee on a blood soaked.....

Keep those women out of my pissoir.

Tom

 

[columbus]

And I'm saying NOT all.

Where are you drawing a line? I don't remember reading where you said that gender specific restrooms were OK.

I'm fine with the concept under limited circumstances. I don't even have to know. I don't have to pee that often.

Tom

 

[Nymphs]

Where are you drawing a line? I don't remember reading where you said that gender specific restrooms were OK.

Having some is important, and perhaps (IMO), when people are used to those, we can increase the number. I'm okay with gender specific and gender neutral bathrooms. I could care less who I pee by -- doesn't make me bat an eye.

 

[Leftimies]

How about the majority that feels uncomfortable enough with the idea to make such division in the first place? Should they be ignored for the minority? What about the majority rule??

This is madness!

 

[Nymphs]

How about the majority that feels uncomfortable enough with the idea to make such division in the first place? Should they be ignored for the minority? What about the majority rule??

This is madness!

Like I stated before.

People felt uncomfortable with gay marriage, interracial marriage, women voting, etc. for years. While bathrooms aren't the same, the idea can be applied.

 

[Penumbra]

I agree with the above.

Regarding the part I highlighted, though, wouldn't making restrooms entirely unisex instead of making unisex restrooms an option mean that a lot of people who aren't comfortable using such restrooms would be made uncomfortable? That is, wouldn't it be biased against them not to give them the option to use gender-specific restrooms instead of unisex ones?

Well in the context of that post, I was talking about a set of individual single-stall rooms.

That's how that one dorm floor was at my college- a dozen individual unisex restrooms. None were gendered, but all were private. So there was little downside other than cost of installation and maintenance.

So basically if it's a place with limited restroom use, then I think a number of individual unisex rooms cover it quite well, preferably with that combo of urinal and toilet in the rooms so that men can use the urinal rather than pee on the seat of the toilet. If it's a larger area like a shopping mall, I think the best and least controversial option is to have a men's room, a women's room, and then one or more unisex rooms, preferably a few depending on the size of the place, for families to use, or for disabled people, or for transgender/intersex/gender-nonconforming people that are more comfortable in them. If there's no neutral option, I think that's fairly unacceptable for a rather large minority of people, unless society becomes reasonable enough to chill out if someone of visually ambiguous gender comes into their restroom to relieve themselves.

 

[Leftimies]

Like I stated before.

People felt uncomfortable with gay marriage, interracial marriage, women voting, etc. for years. While bathrooms aren't the same, the idea can be applied.

I honestly am afraid on the behalf of women if this comes to pass.

 

[kashmir]

Since when do we give a damn about saving companies money, enough to support gender-less restrooms for that reason?

Why stop there, why not support gender-less clothing lines and forbid the production of anything else?
I am sure walmart would love to have that as well.
Less space and much more simple.

I find it very comical of those who want gender-less bathrooms so bad that they have to debate it online "to save mcdonalds a few bucks"
I cant help wonder why they feel the need to HAVE TO WANT bathrooms that will have both sex's using and are hiding behind the "saving companies money"
Odd and quite disturbing when we look at the total picture here.

"lets save mcdonalds money" by convincing males/female to pee in the same rooms :sarcastic:

It's like the joke, "save money and water, shower with a buddy"

 

[Nymphs]

I honestly am afraid on the behalf of women if this comes to pass.

Why???

 

[Nymphs]

Since when do we give a damn about saving companies money, enough to support gender-less restrooms for that reason?

Why stop there, why not support gender-less clothing lines and forbid the production of anything else?
I am sure walmart would love to have that as well.
Less space and much more simple.

I find it very comical of those who want gender-less bathrooms so bad that they have to debate it online "to save mcdonalds a few bucks"
I cant help wonder why they feel the need to HAVE TO WANT bathrooms that will have both sex's using and are hiding behind the "saving companies money"
Odd.

You've missed the point entirely...again.

:cover:

 

[Leftimies]

Since when do we give a damn about saving companies money, enough to support gender-less restrooms for that reason?

Why stop there, why not support gender-less clothing lines and forbid the production of anything else?
I am sure walmart would love to have that as well.
Less space and much more simple.

I find it very comical of those who want gender-less bathrooms so bad that they have to debate it online.
I cant help wonder why they feel the need to HAVE TO WANT bathrooms that will have both sex's using.
Odd.

If they want it bad, why would they need to debate it? Doesn't debating imply opposition? I agree its odd, though. But then again, what in this world isn't? Its completely insane if you haven't taken notice.

 

[Leftimies]

Why???

Not all men are nice. I suppose rape is not likely, but its a possibility that could be minimised by having separate bathrooms. I suspect its the original reason for separate bathrooms.

But I will make this easy on you today and have faith in humanity

 

[kashmir]

If they want it bad, why would they need to debate it? Doesn't debating imply opposition? I agree its odd, though. But then again, what in this world isn't? Its completely insane if you haven't taken notice.

Not everyone wants it so bad they have to argue for the reasons why they want it, and the reasons are pretty ignorant.

Look at the big picture, why the desire to do your business with members of the opposite sex in the first place?
To save companies money?

 

[Nymphs]

Not all men are nice. I suppose rape is not likely, but its a possibility that could be minimised by having separate bathrooms. I suspect its the original reason for separate bathrooms.

But I will make this easy on you today and have faith in humanity

Not all women are nice either.

I tend to be an eternal optimist.

 

[Leftimies]

Not everyone wants it so bad they have to argue for the reasons why they want it, and the reasons are pretty ignorant.

Look at the big picture, why the desire to do your business with members of the opposite sex in the first place?
To save companies money?

Some have innocent motives, some say yes because it fits with their larger philosophy of equality and some have sinister motives.

I would have separated bathrooms. But as heated as the debate is, I would dare to claim it is not at the forefront of humanity's problems. I would consider global economic meltdown, underage sex workers, wars, widespread materialist ignorance and stagnation of human advancement to space to take priority as humanity's concerns.

 

[Penumbra]

Not everyone wants it so bad they have to argue for the reasons why they want it, and the reasons are pretty ignorant.

Look at the big picture, why the desire to do your business with members of the opposite sex in the first place?
To save companies money?

It's right in the OP- the main motivation is for various restroom setups to include options for individuals that face discrimination for using either male-only or female-only restrooms.

 

[Nymphs]

I would consider global economic meltdown, underage sex workers, wars, widespread materialist ignorance and stagnation of human advancement to space to take priority as humanity's concerns.

Me too. But this is a debate forum, what good are ideas if you can't challenge them -- no matter how first world they may be?