All Bathrooms Gender Neutral: Good Idea or Bad Idea?

[Nymphs]

FAMILY RESTROOMS

That is a definition, but it doesn't exclude multiple stall ones, which I have seen. Unless you are calling me a liar?

 

[Nymphs]

Those are restrooms! There is a difference. Bathrooms are what you have in your house.

Actually, the term is interchangeable depending on who you talk to. Just like soda, coke or pop, bathroom/restroom can mean the same thing. Nice try, though.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Not without some sort of supervision or safeguards.
Repeat offenders are real.

Yeah, I know. I'm just pointing out that the sex offender scare-mongering is irrelevant since it happens, anyways. There's no reason to believe it would get worse. Male sex offenders target little boys in the men's room and they don't restrain themselves from going into the women's room as it is.

So that's really an irrelevant argument.

 

[Skwim]

Those are restrooms! There is a difference. Bathrooms are what you have in your house.

Bathrooms, ironing boards, throw pillows, door bells, kaopectate, cobwebs. . . .

 

[Nymphs]

Bathrooms, ironing boards, throw pillows, door bells, kaopectate, cobwebs. . . .

Potatoes, potatoes.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Actually, the term is interchangeable depending on who you talk to. Just like soda, coke or pop, bathroom/restroom can mean the same thing. Nice try, though.

My family speaks proper English, and the terms are not interchangeable. A restroom is a public toilet, a bathroom is a room usually found in a domicile containing a bathtub or a shower and usually also a sink and a toilet.

 

[Nymphs]

My family speaks proper English, and the terms are interchangeable. A restroom is a public toilet, a bathroom is a room usually found in a domicile containing a bathtub or a shower and usually also a sink and a toilet.

So you are going to continue to throw red herrings out there? Your argument doesn't hold much weight if you are going to argue semantics and cultural terms.

:sorry1: NOT :sorry1:

Please come back when you have an argument that is backed up.

 

[ChristineES]

I came across this article on FB talking about gender specific bathrooms. The author argues that this creates dilemmas for individuals who don't conform to gender norms and is a form of discrimination. It does talk about some places implementing unisex bathrooms in addition to gender specific bathrooms. But the main part I found interesting was where the author seems to advocate for making all bathrooms gender neutral:
Toilet Trouble: When Bathroom Architecture And Identity Politics Collide | Co.Design | business + design
What does everyone here think about this idea? Would this be a good idea, or is it out of touch with reality? For example, would the majority of people even be willing to use such a bathroom (especially women)? Or is this just a idealistic fantasy that has no hope of ever being functional in today's society?

Are we speaking of bathrooms or public restrooms? There seems to be a strange conversation coming out of this whole thing. (It's not your fault, though).

I've been debating about public restrooms.

 

[Nymphs]

Are we speaking of bathrooms or public restrooms? There seems to be a strange conversation coming out of this whole thing. (It's not your fault, though).

I've been debating about public restrooms.

The article seems to refer to public bathrooms/restrooms.

 

[Skwim]

Actually, the term is interchangeable depending on who you talk to. Just like soda, coke or pop, bathroom/restroom can mean the same thing. Nice try, though.

Hmmm. I always thought restrooms were places where one goes to rest (relieve) ones bladder and/or colon, and that bathrooms were places we go to bathe and/or shower. That one may pee and poop in a bathroom is nice, but hardly defining.
Just as air hand driers don't rob restrooms of their resting purpose neither do toilets rob bathrooms of their bathing purpose. So it would be folly to equate a room where one may bathe and/or poop with a room where one cannot bathe, but only poop.

 

[Tumah]

Yeah, I know. I'm just pointing out that the sex offender scare-mongering is irrelevant since it happens, anyways. There's no reason to believe it would get worse. Male sex offenders target little boys in the men's room and they don't restrain themselves from going into the women's room as it is.

So that's really an irrelevant argument.

So you are saying, since they anyway go into women's rooms, let's make it ok!

I feel that there may be some cultural issue or something at work here. My mentality is to make it harder to assault people. Your mentality seems to be, since its going to happen anyway, we may as well stop trying to safeguard against it.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

So you are going to continue to throw red herrings out there? Your argument doesn't hold much weight if you are going to argue semantics and cultural terms.

:sorry1: NOT :sorry1:

Please come back when you have an argument that is backed up.

A cultural term? It is ******* simple ******* English. I am sorry that you don't understand the ******* difference between an apple and a ******* orange.

Wow. Just wow.

 

[Nymphs]

Hmmm. I always thought restrooms were places where one goes to rest (relieve) ones bladder and/or colon, and that bathrooms were places we go to bathe and/or shower.
Just as air hand driers don't rob restrooms of their resting purpose neither do toilets rob bathrooms of their bathing purpose. So it would be folly to equate a room where one may bathe and/or poop with a room where one cannot bathe, but only poop.

Like I said, it is a cultural term, like soda/pop/coke (which can all mean the same thing, depending on who you talk to).

If you are going to argue semantics, go ahead, but I won't answer. Semantics aren't the issue here, public restrooms/bathrooms are.

 

[Nymphs]

A cultural term? It is ******* simple ******* English. I am sorry that you don't understand the ******* difference between an apple and a ******* orange.

Wow. Just wow.

Try google, sweetie.

Look closely at synonyms

https://www.google.com/search?q=bat...&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8#q=other+words+for+bathroom

If needed, I can provide other references, but your red herrings and personal insults still stand, glaringly wrong.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

So you are saying, since they anyway go into women's rooms, let's make it ok!

I feel that there may be some cultural issue or something at work here. My mentality is to make it harder to assault people. Your mentality seems to be, since its going to happen anyway, we may as well stop trying to safeguard against it.

Obviously gender segregated restrooms haven't been a safeguard against it so obviously the solution to that will have to be something unrelated to this discussion. That's my entire point.

 

[Nymphs]

So you are saying, since they anyway go into women's rooms, let's make it ok!

I feel that there may be some cultural issue or something at work here. My mentality is to make it harder to assault people. Your mentality seems to be, since its going to happen anyway, we may as well stop trying to safeguard against it.

Why not educated our society? I feel like lack of education has a lot to do with these fears.

 

[Debater Slayer]

The article seems to refer to public bathrooms/restrooms.

Like you, I'm in favor of making unisex restrooms an option. However, if all public restrooms were turned unisex, what would a person do if he or she weren't comfortable using such a restroom?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Why not educated our society? I feel like lack of education has a lot to do with these fears.

I don't know what Pollyanna universe you are living in, but we cannot educate away predation in this one.

 

[Nymphs]

Like you, I'm in favor of making unisex restrooms an option. However, if all public restrooms were turned unisex, what would a person do if he or she weren't comfortable using such a restroom?

I never said all bathrooms.

I'm in favor of more unnisex restrooms an option as stated in the thread before.

 

[Tumah]

Obviously gender segregated restrooms haven't been a safeguard against it so obviously the solution to that will have to be something unrelated to this discussion. That's my entire point.

So again, since taking predators out of school has not resulted in a cessation of child predation, we should let them back into the schools and try to find a different solution.

Why not educated our society? I feel like lack of education has a lot to do with these fears.

And I think its male hormones coupled with lack of inhibition and probably a good dose of childhood trauma.

And I think these fears are quite well-founded. Would you send your five year old girl into that gender-neutral restroom at the gas station on the highway by herself at 10pm right after that big ole trucker (no offense to truckers)?