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Almost Everything You Think You Know Is A Lie

Audie

Veteran Member
Of course not everything taught in the history books is true, and the government has lied to us in the past. However, it's a ridiculous stretch to state that "almost everything" I think I know is a lie. For one thing, I don't presume to know anything with certainty about the physical world. So, you definitely don't speak for me.

His actual reference is to almost everything he thinks.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
The flood was real.
There is absolutly no geologic evidence that the Biblical flood is a real event. I am a geologist with 50 years experience, and I am intimately aware of the geology of the earth.

The Sumerians records did not distinguish what we call their mythology from their history. The tower of Babel is symbolic of what? Maybe radio tower?

. . . and???

There are human remains (not modern humans) that are millions of years old.

Are you referring to paleontological evidence for evolution of humans. What is your point here?

Even vedic archaeology baffles a lot of mainstream archaeology. It's possible there could be thousands of years of recorded data lost.

No.

People ask why it's important. I think it's important for humans to know their role and origin in this realm. It has much meaning and can be incredibly empowering .

Too vague.

Still waiting for you to explain this . . .

"Recently Russian naval forces sent a convoy including Saudi Arabia vessels to the antarctica and their expedition was mainland. At this time many world leaders also went to mainland South Pole, including Putin and John Kerry, and the Pope."
 
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blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I challenge everyone of you to update your information on the following topics.

The discovery of EMF and electromagnetism.

The Cold war and Admiral Byrd's expedition to antarctica.

The creation of NASA in 1959 and landing on the moon in 1969.

Between 1955 and 1992 the Russians did 36 expeditions to the South Pole, during which times we we're supposedly at the peak height of space exploration against Russia. But they weren't going to space, instead they went to antarctica.

Recently Russian naval forces sent a convoy including Saudi Arabia vessels to the antarctica and their expedition was mainland. At this time many world leaders also went to mainland South Pole, including Putin and John Kerry, and the Pope

I challenge you to investigate the legitimacy of WW2 and the fight against the Nazis and the spread of international communism which started the Vietnam proxy war.

I challenge you to investigate Hitler and his obsession with the occult and his exploration of the South Pole.

I challenge you to research the various species of humans that are known to have existed, this includes humans dating back millions of years. This includes giants and what we would refer to as "fairies" all having existed and having actual fossils.

Take the time and challenge what you think you know.

I am able to provide sources and more information at specific request. I realize many will also try and make a mockery of this. And so I would also ask the question, which way does the water flow? And do you consider yourself a free thinker? Don't be afraid to swim against the stream.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Thank you for your response.

The ISS is low Earth orbit, so I'm not sure of the similarities. I only know based off observation that pictures from both locations lack stars. I mean I don't see why it would change now. Usually when deception is happening the decievers tend to stick with that lie and build on it, and make claims like the surface they are standing on is too bright. Even though the earth is much brighter than the moon.
The Moon's surface is brighter than the Earths, no atmospheric envelope. You kind of slid past my question, there, if we're being "deceived" why didn't the original "deception" simply have fake stars, if they're actually meant to be visible?
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
I challenge everyone of you to update your information on the following topics.

The discovery of EMF and electromagnetism.

The Cold war and Admiral Byrd's expedition to antarctica.

The creation of NASA in 1959 and landing on the moon in 1969.

Between 1955 and 1992 the Russians did 36 expeditions to the South Pole, during which times we we're supposedly at the peak height of space exploration against Russia. But they weren't going to space, instead they went to antarctica.

Recently Russian naval forces sent a convoy including Saudi Arabia vessels to the antarctica and their expedition was mainland. At this time many world leaders also went to mainland South Pole, including Putin and John Kerry, and the Pope

I challenge you to investigate the legitimacy of WW2 and the fight against the Nazis and the spread of international communism which started the Vietnam proxy war.

I challenge you to investigate Hitler and his obsession with the occult and his exploration of the South Pole.

I challenge you to research the various species of humans that are known to have existed, this includes humans dating back millions of years. This includes giants and what we would refer to as "fairies" all having existed and having actual fossils.

Take the time and challenge what you think you know.

I am able to provide sources and more information at specific request. I realize many will also try and make a mockery of this. And so I would also ask the question, which way does the water flow? And do you consider yourself a free thinker? Don't be afraid to swim against the stream.

I believe there wasn't a real WWII like we think.
America had declared war on Japan by blocking its oil. in 1941 America challenged Germany when it occupied Iceland, a European territory. This was tantamount to a declaration of war against Germany.
I believe WWII was about the American occupation of Europe. An occupation which continued to this day despite there being no Nazi or Communist threat.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Can you actually prove to me that we went to the moon? Who is "we"?

To the extent we can prove anything about the past, it is possible to prove we went to the moon. Specifically, a total of 12 men walked on the moon.

Electromagnetism is neat. It works on a quantum scale, unlike gravity.

It's more that we haven't reached the energy level at which the quantum aspects of gravity become relevant. But we have reached the energy levels where the quantum aspects of E&M are relevant.

WW11 was a mess. Vietnam was even worse!

Vietnam had more powerful weaponry, yes. The current war in Syria is also pretty bad.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I am totally open to reason. My goal is to be proven wrong.

You asked about fallacies, well your asking others to prove the negative when you have failed to provide sound positive arguments and evidence for many of you claims. It is 'arguing from ignorance,'

Still waiting . . .

"Recently Russian naval forces sent a convoy including Saudi Arabia vessels to the Antarctica and their expedition was mainland. At this time many world leaders also went to mainland South Pole, including Putin and John Kerry, and the Pope."
 
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Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Thank you for your response.

The ISS is low Earth orbit, so I'm not sure of the similarities. I only know based off observation that pictures from both locations lack stars. I mean I don't see why it would change now. Usually when deception is happening the decievers tend to stick with that lie and build on it, and make claims like the surface they are standing on is too bright. Even though the earth is much brighter than the moon.


If you take a pcture of a bright foreground at night, either the picture of the foreground will be washed out or you won't see stars. The point is that stars are very dim and photo film is readily overexposed.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
I have discussed your video. Still waiting for you to answer how astronauts endure lethal space radiation coming from multiple sources.

The reason we don't have that on Earth is because of the van Allen belts and the moon is outside of them.


Well, the level of radiation was a concern and is one reason the moon trips were kept fairly short. it is much more of a concern for a trip to Mars, where a solar flare is much more likely during the longer trip. And yes, occasionally, people need to go into a shielded area of the ISS to avoid such effects.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
And it's not true anyways because the Earth is brighter than the moon and even though we have an atmosphere and lens distortion we can still see celestial objects during the day, like the moon, and other planets.

Seeing other planets isn't so easy during the day. I would challenge you to get a picture of a landscape that also includes an image of, say, Jupiter or Venus during the day.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
Don't you find it weird there isn't any movies of landing on the moon?

With the technology now you'd think they'd be able to make a movie that accurately represents what it's like...wonder why there isn't any movie like that?

Huh? How would they get such a video??

We *do* have video from within the lunar module of the landing.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I challenge everyone of you to update your information on the following topics.

The discovery of EMF and electromagnetism.

The Cold war and Admiral Byrd's expedition to antarctica.

The creation of NASA in 1959 and landing on the moon in 1969.

Between 1955 and 1992 the Russians did 36 expeditions to the South Pole, during which times we we're supposedly at the peak height of space exploration against Russia. But they weren't going to space, instead they went to antarctica.

Recently Russian naval forces sent a convoy including Saudi Arabia vessels to the antarctica and their expedition was mainland. At this time many world leaders also went to mainland South Pole, including Putin and John Kerry, and the Pope

I challenge you to investigate the legitimacy of WW2 and the fight against the Nazis and the spread of international communism which started the Vietnam proxy war.

I challenge you to investigate Hitler and his obsession with the occult and his exploration of the South Pole.

I challenge you to research the various species of humans that are known to have existed, this includes humans dating back millions of years. This includes giants and what we would refer to as "fairies" all having existed and having actual fossils.

Take the time and challenge what you think you know.

I am able to provide sources and more information at specific request. I realize many will also try and make a mockery of this. And so I would also ask the question, which way does the water flow? And do you consider yourself a free thinker? Don't be afraid to swim against the stream.
About the claim of a faked moon landing......
I know whence this claim originates. Most people don't work in aerospace industries, so
they've no experience with that range of technologies & capabilities. So space travel is
exotic, & seemingly impossible to some, who doubt it actually happened.
But if it were a conspiracy, many thousands of workers in hundreds of companies would
all have to have been in on the conspiracy. It would be impossible to enlist them all, &
then keep them silent for all these years.
 
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YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Huh? How would they get such a video??

We *do* have video from within the lunar module of the landing.
Heck, I even remember watching them land "live" on TV. As @Revoltingest points out, there is zero chance that this was faked, like with 9/11, due to the huge number of people involved. In this era, something would have leaked by this point. To think otherwise is simply being irrational.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I am totally open to reason. My goal is to be proven wrong.
Ah, "Prove me wrong!", the cry of the crank throughout the ages.....

It doesn't work like that. It is up to the person making a claim contrary to conventional thinking to support it and thereby convince people. Not for everyone else to recite laboriously all the reasons why the conventional thinking is accepted.

So you do the work, please, and justify your claims, to us.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Heck, I even remember watching them land "live" on TV. As @Revoltingest points out, there is zero chance that this was faked, like with 9/11, due to the huge number of people involved. In this era, something would have leaked by this point. To think otherwise is simply being irrational.
Think of all the times government tried to conspire to keep something secret....
- Bill's & Monica's affair
- The Watergate break-in
How well were those secrets kept (with only a few people in the know)?
 
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