An atheist, lefthanded polytheist, and a Muslim go in to a bar

[Link]

There will always be two sides

Isa (a) will kill the Dajjal, and Imam Mahdi (a) will kill Satan, soon inshallah.

Then there will be peace for a long time inshallah.

 

[The Hammer]

Isa (a) will kill the Dajjal, and Imam Mahdi (a) will kill Satan, soon inshallah.

Then there will be peace for a long time inshallah.

And Fenrir will eat Odin, and the other Gods during Ragnarok, destroying the world. But Lif and Lifthrasir will take shelter in Yggdrasil, and survive to repopulate the Earth.

Notice how it's duality (lif and Lifthrasir) that continues on.

 

[Link]

And Fenrir will eat Odin, and the other Gods during Ragnarok, destroying the world. But Lif and Lifthrasir will take shelter in Yggdrasil, and survive to repopulate the Earth.

Notice how it's duality (lif and Lifthrasir) that continues on.

The destroyed civilizations of the past and cities is because they rebelled and disobeyed the Messengers of God, when all Messengers were asking was not to oppress believers and not to seek to destroy them.

We'll see what happens. But something to me is clear, when destruction to these civilizations and cities come, there is one overriding power and no power to stop it.

 

[Link]

@The Hammer you may feel the opposite, but I always enjoy dialoguing with you.

Thanks for your time. The joke and dialogue on that made this one a bit rough, but turned out pretty good.

 

[Viker]

The atheist says "let's eat a cooked baby, mmm my favorite" , the lefthanded polytheist is shocked but condones it, "there is no right or wrong, if that's what you want, then do it", the Muslim kills both when they followed through "life for a life".

The news the next day "Muslim terrorist kills two".

I'm joking, but on a serious note:

Atheists:

I will start with atheists. Atheists emphasize God existed, he can present clear proofs of himself and even create the world without harm. They are correct. Both of these notions, that every soul be given it's guidance and not a soul go astray including Iblis, was possible. And that God could have created the world with day of judgment type proof from the start to end, and no one would doubt God.

Also they are correct, in that, miracles use to be in the open but now with technology reaching it's peak, they are no longer here. Why aren't miracles in the open requires a rational explanation, and can't just be said "just because".

God is hiding apparently more in this century with no new revelation that has miracles of a performer, unlike the claims of the past. This needs an explanation.

Polytheists

Magical unseen world is real, and there is energy everywhere. There are hidden beings who have immense power and are part of how we develop. Everyone is a psychic, some just realize it more then others and can intensify their powers and some of it through help of unseen entities.

Some of these polytheists don't believe in a Creator, but believe in magic and that these sentient beings exist along with us and are related to our psyche and spiritual world. Some of these polytheists do believe in a Creator and see these are "lesser gods".

Left handed

If there is no absolute connectors to God that have divine proof of their path to God and point to God in provable way, there is no good and evil as there is no one straight path.

If there is no one path that is proven and connected us to us, there is many ways to be, and we all have to embrace our own will and our own way, and there is no correct way, there is just us analyzing the situation and acting to what we will.

We embrace our choices and go forward, since there is no correct path, only the path we have chosen so must embrace our choices.

We can seek help of the "gods" "demi-gods" or "angels" or whatever you call them, if there is no absolute one God and a provable path to him, to help forge our path, but we there is one way over another, and so they help us forge and walk our own path.

My belief

The Imam is connected to all things, his light covers all living things, his telepathy judgment shames us when we do evil, and the so called "Angel" that polytheists deem the spiritual guide of the individual who attacks the Imam light as "harsh" and "judgmental" is from Iblis and that so called "Angel" is also what wants us to embrace sexual deviant sins as a way of "freeing us" from "control of the Imam who is a dark powerful sorcerer" in the evil demons and evil sorcerers view.

The Quran reminds of the true light from God, and in a way, that teaches us to see things with mental clarity. It also works in conjunction with the Imam's powers and Angels under him, and has magical effects, when God is feared, to annul the dark sorcery of Iblis step by step.

My view, if we are left to ourselves, we will pick falsehood, but if God's grace helps us, we have a chance to choose the truth.

Satan calls, this all his magic power is, it's a call, a psychological call and pull. He intoxicates an evil type of joy, when you chase his illusions, and it seems rewarding, but it's an illusion, a ploy.

A problem with left-handed path in my view, is that hardest thing to decide is what we want. We might not realize our truest wishes, and the "I" may not be mostly us deciding, but a companion from Satan deciding and "guiding" us towards dark illusionary world. It maybe even more "responsible" for our misguidance, then us, although, we too are responsible.

Sure, if there is no right or wrong, this may seem harmless, but who is to say there is none, and no accountability? Simply wishing it away won't make it become that way.

The Imam is connection that brings true power and sustenance from God. The sustenance of God not only lasts, but is "better" then what the devils and the illusionary desires call to. It's pleasure is higher, it's honor is higher, time wise, it's forever.

The Imam though is a straight path to God. God won't be arrived at no matter what we go to, this notion is false. We have to go up, and there is only going down if not ascending through God's path.

There is a right way, which is love the true God and not make up God and the path per our desires and fleeting illusionary wishes.

As for the atheist and proofs. The Imam is a hidden proof, so that every soul can be rewarded for what it strives for. So that there can be meaning to who we are with respect to God.

And as for miracles, it's because of the hostility the Imams faced, they are hidden today. But they will be shown whenever a jinn or human is ready for it, and won't rebel, it will be shown.

Highest unseen signs will also be opened up if a soul wants to journey to God and can be connected to by the Imam of time to that reality and won't accuse him of sorcery upon the "vision" of the person.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Meh, I got that the op was a joke, @Link and I had no problems with it since you picked on your own group as well as others. Humour is subjective.

But you lost me here....

Atheists emphasize God existed, he can present clear proofs of himself and even create the world without harm. They are correct.

Not sure what you mean. If I was bothered, I'd be emphasising that God doesn't exist.

Now, lessee...

An atheist, a left-handed polytheist and a Muslim walk into a bar called 'The Gates of Heaven'.

They walk up to order a drink but there's no bartender there.

'Ha! Just like heaven. Empty', laughed the atheist, snacking on some fried baby (carrots....heh)...

'Just like God, you'll only see what you want to see...', proclaimed the Muslim, pointing to a shadowy figure in the back stacking bottles. 'Hello Sir, can I have a water?'

'A water? This is a damn bar, and you'll drink red wine or nothing', a gruff voice responded.

Both the atheist and left-handpractitioner found it hilarious that the 'Gates of Heaven' apparently booted out tee-totallers.

'Too funny', chuckled the LHP. 'I'll have a bourbon.'

'No you won't, young man. We mind our manners here, and you didn't say thanks, so I think all three of you can leave...go on. Bugger off.'

Bemused the atheist, the LHP, and the Muslim leave the bar.

The shadowy figure from the back steps into the light, and reveals itself as Pope Francis. 'I love jerking their chains...' he chortled. 'They didn't even realise it was April Fools Day...'

 

[Link]

Meh, I got that the op was a joke, @Link and I had no problems with it since you picked on your own group as well as others. Humour is subjective.

But you lost me here....


Not sure what you mean. If I was bothered, I'd be emphasising that God doesn't exist.

I meant to say "if God exists, he can show clear proofs" or "say God exists", that was a typo.

Now, lessee...

That was good. And yeah the Pope should've chosen a different day with the Natives and apology, I agree.

 

[Link]

Hey it's my forum's crush. Giving me the silent treatment I see?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Show me anyone thinking atheists eat babies and takes that as "majority"?

You really should spend some time and try to understand the English language better.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This seems appropriate.

Spoiler: Contains a small amount of swearing

Nah, my hair is brown

 

[John53]

Nah, my hair is brown

Sure it is fire truck

 

[Clara Tea]

The atheist says "let's eat a cooked baby, mmm my favorite" , the lefthanded polytheist is shocked but condones it, "there is no right or wrong, if that's what you want, then do it", the Muslim kills both when they followed through "life for a life".

The news the next day "Muslim terrorist kills two".

I'm joking, but on a serious note:

Atheists:

I will start with atheists. Atheists emphasize God existed, he can present clear proofs of himself and even create the world without harm. They are correct. Both of these notions, that every soul be given it's guidance and not a soul go astray including Iblis, was possible. And that God could have created the world with day of judgment type proof from the start to end, and no one would doubt God.

Also they are correct, in that, miracles use to be in the open but now with technology reaching it's peak, they are no longer here. Why aren't miracles in the open requires a rational explanation, and can't just be said "just because".

God is hiding apparently more in this century with no new revelation that has miracles of a performer, unlike the claims of the past. This needs an explanation.

Polytheists

Magical unseen world is real, and there is energy everywhere. There are hidden beings who have immense power and are part of how we develop. Everyone is a psychic, some just realize it more then others and can intensify their powers and some of it through help of unseen entities.

Some of these polytheists don't believe in a Creator, but believe in magic and that these sentient beings exist along with us and are related to our psyche and spiritual world. Some of these polytheists do believe in a Creator and see these are "lesser gods".

Left handed

If there is no absolute connectors to God that have divine proof of their path to God and point to God in provable way, there is no good and evil as there is no one straight path.

If there is no one path that is proven and connected us to us, there is many ways to be, and we all have to embrace our own will and our own way, and there is no correct way, there is just us analyzing the situation and acting to what we will.

We embrace our choices and go forward, since there is no correct path, only the path we have chosen so must embrace our choices.

We can seek help of the "gods" "demi-gods" or "angels" or whatever you call them, if there is no absolute one God and a provable path to him, to help forge our path, but we there is one way over another, and so they help us forge and walk our own path.

My belief

The Imam is connected to all things, his light covers all living things, his telepathy judgment shames us when we do evil, and the so called "Angel" that polytheists deem the spiritual guide of the individual who attacks the Imam light as "harsh" and "judgmental" is from Iblis and that so called "Angel" is also what wants us to embrace sexual deviant sins as a way of "freeing us" from "control of the Imam who is a dark powerful sorcerer" in the evil demons and evil sorcerers view.

The Quran reminds of the true light from God, and in a way, that teaches us to see things with mental clarity. It also works in conjunction with the Imam's powers and Angels under him, and has magical effects, when God is feared, to annul the dark sorcery of Iblis step by step.

My view, if we are left to ourselves, we will pick falsehood, but if God's grace helps us, we have a chance to choose the truth.

Satan calls, this all his magic power is, it's a call, a psychological call and pull. He intoxicates an evil type of joy, when you chase his illusions, and it seems rewarding, but it's an illusion, a ploy.

A problem with left-handed path in my view, is that hardest thing to decide is what we want. We might not realize our truest wishes, and the "I" may not be mostly us deciding, but a companion from Satan deciding and "guiding" us towards dark illusionary world. It maybe even more "responsible" for our misguidance, then us, although, we too are responsible.

Sure, if there is no right or wrong, this may seem harmless, but who is to say there is none, and no accountability? Simply wishing it away won't make it become that way.

The Imam is connection that brings true power and sustenance from God. The sustenance of God not only lasts, but is "better" then what the devils and the illusionary desires call to. It's pleasure is higher, it's honor is higher, time wise, it's forever.

The Imam though is a straight path to God. God won't be arrived at no matter what we go to, this notion is false. We have to go up, and there is only going down if not ascending through God's path.

There is a right way, which is love the true God and not make up God and the path per our desires and fleeting illusionary wishes.

As for the atheist and proofs. The Imam is a hidden proof, so that every soul can be rewarded for what it strives for. So that there can be meaning to who we are with respect to God.

And as for miracles, it's because of the hostility the Imams faced, they are hidden today. But they will be shown whenever a jinn or human is ready for it, and won't rebel, it will be shown.

Highest unseen signs will also be opened up if a soul wants to journey to God and can be connected to by the Imam of time to that reality and won't accuse him of sorcery upon the "vision" of the person.

Objecting to "true or false" accusations that Saddam murdered thousands, President W. Bush murdered about 1,000,000 Iraqis (mostly shopkeepers forced to the front lines as soldiers).

Ironically the Religious Right protects pre-fetuses, but kills soldiers.

"one God and a provable path to him, to help forge our path, but we there is one way over another, and so they help us forge and walk our own path" Our path is forged by every step. Kill, and you are a killer. Rescue a stranded motorist, and you are good. Good doesn't erase bad, nor does it come close to equaling it.

Atheists don't assert that God (if He exists) can prove His existence. Rather, they refuse to believe unless there is proof that God exists.

"Satan calls, this all his magic power is, it's a call, a psychological call and pull. He intoxicates an evil type of joy, when you chase his illusions" Those who use Satan's tactics (lies, greed, kill, torture, destruction of God's miracles), often end up with Satan's results. Those prone to use one of Satan's tactics are likely prone to use them all. Consequently, following Satan's tactics will lead to package deals (environmental destruction, homelessness, wars, torture camps, etc). The world is messed up today, and this is why.

 

[Clara Tea]

It's a joke they do about themselves, and so I'm just pointing to a joke they do and using it.

The "do as thou will" can be a stereotype, but obviously, you know I don't think this about left handed polytheists, that they believe every action should be done, since they also believe what "harmful" should be avoided, and not to harm others, but outside of that, to do what you will.

And Muslims live everywhere and don't take law into their own hands, but some people in Pakistan for example, throw acid at female family if they become "shameful", so if there is any "truth", it's the one about the Muslims. But that's a minority of them.

It maybe something else is not making you just see the joke for what it is.

I don't object to your joke.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't object to your joke.

I don't, either. It wasn't that big of a deal. Religious groups and atheists are put down and mocked all the time here. You just get over it. As long as it's not a DIR rule violation or targeting a forum member, it doesn't seem to be against the rules. No point in taking yourself too seriously.

 

[Clara Tea]

@Link

The thing is that, a true Muslim must not go to a bar. In there, there are girls and alcohol.

Tea bar, only guys allowed. But they have to use left-handed tea cups.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Tea bar, only guys allowed. But they have to use left-handed tea cups.

Left handed cups? Not a problem.

 

[Clara Tea]

My opinion is when the world unites as one. There will be an even bigger problem to be had, to keep the cycle moving. And I dread the day.

They say that the United States united as a soup. Others argue that it is a salad, with each individual part separate and distinct, yet adding to the whole. Harmony is found in getting along, and sometimes that is by segregation. Yet, according to Brown V. Board of Education, 1954, separate is necessarily unequal.

How can we achieve equality with unequal educations, unequal police (in bad neighborhoods, White cops sometimes beat the heads of Black citizens, while screaming racial epithets). Black Lives Matter wants to defund the police, yet that would put organized crime in charge. Obviously, the jails are overcrowded, so the cops are doing their jobs, yet it is hard to see that amid the many crimes that go unpunished.

Justice demands equality and patience. We must all be patient while the system punishes the criminals (even if those criminals are overzealous cops). We can't stop crime, but we can address the aftermath.

 

[Clara Tea]

Isa (a) will kill the Dajjal, and Imam Mahdi (a) will kill Satan, soon inshallah.

Then there will be peace for a long time inshallah.

Killing is so violent. Couldn't they just injure a little bit?

 

[The Hammer]

Black Lives Matter wants to defund the police, yet

And defund we should.

As in reallocate their over inflated budgets, remove their military tactical gear, and have better vetting and psychological checks for them. As well as ensuring any transgressions they commit, are investigated by an outside independent agency, and not investigate themselves.

 

[stvdv]

And if there is no I, there is no reference of good or bad, this or that. There only is.

Then there is also no "gods", right?