An execution of wounded by Israeli soldier !

[FearGod]

Better to try to help people than do nothing, surely?

Expelling the Palestinians from their homeland is a solution, surely a stupid idea.

 

[Kirran]

Because West who plante Israel in heart of Arab world ,and being silence of it's crimes.

Even though most Jews are there because they had to flee from Arab countries?

 

[Kirran]

Expelling the Palestinians from their homeland is a solution, surely a stupid idea.

Yes, I agree. But at the moment, helping Palestinian refugees is the humanitarian thing to do.

 

[FearGod]

Yes, I agree. But at the moment, helping Palestinian refugees is the humanitarian thing to do.

The humanitarian thing is to stay in their own lands

 

[FearGod]

Even though most Jews are there because they had to flee from Arab countries?

To flee from Arab countries to one other Arabian country.

 

[Tumah]

They are just workers , I was talking about towns whom build by Israel to/for Jews !!!

Ok. So then back to my original statement. Israel built Abu Ghosh as much as it builds any other town in Israel.

That was a war, Hamas fired rockets , and Israel which killed Palestinians.

What's the practical difference? Its the same willingness to kill one's own people in an effort to get the enemy.

Some of them are facing racist and unjustice from Israeli goverment.

listen to them :

Do you realize that you are calling racist a government that counts Arab members among its MKs?
Here is another video.

Because West who plante Israel in heart of Arab world ,and being silence of it's crimes.

Are you aware that more than half the population of Israel descends from Arabic Jews?
And the implications of that?

 

[Tumah]

To flee from Arab countries to one other Arabian country.

But don't you think, "the humanitarian thing is to stay in their own lands"?

 

[Kirran]

The humanitarian thing is to stay in their own lands

Ideally, sure. But under that logic Europe wouldn't accept the refugees coming from Syria right now - it would just send them back to Syria.

To flee from Arab countries to one other Arabian country.

It wasn't about that - it was about whether or not they were safe, whether or not they had full rights, whether or not they were being attacked by mobs and beaten and killed. Whether their properties were being burnt down. In some cases, they had literally no choice, because the governments just expelled them - so where were they supposed to go?

 

[FearGod]

But don't you think, "the humanitarian thing is to stay in their own lands"?

The Jews should stay in their lands and the Palestinians in their lands,
the Israeli soldiers should stay away from the Palestinians lands, that's the humanitarian thing that Israel doesn't accept.

 

[Kirran]

The Jews should stay in their lands and the Palestinians in their lands,

The Jews were driven out of their lands. Therefore they mostly went to Israel.

Perhaps you just mean they shouldn't go into the West Bank.

 

[FearGod]

Ideally, sure. But under that logic Europe wouldn't accept the refugees coming from Syria right now - it would just send them back to Syria.

The Syrian refugees wanted to leave Syria by their choice, the Palestinians want to stay in their own homeland, that's the difference.

- so where were they supposed to go?

To occupy Palestine and to kill the Palestinians

 

[FearGod]

The Jews were driven out of their lands. Therefore they mostly went to Israel.

Perhaps you just mean they shouldn't go into the West Bank.

Yes the lands of the Palestinians should be free from the Israeli soldiers, i think it's a fair demand.

 

[Kirran]

The Syrian refugees wanted to leave Syria by their choice, the Palestinians want to stay in their own homeland, that's the difference.

The Syrian refugees didn't want to leave Syria, they were forced to by violence. If things become peaceful again, they will mostly go back. Same.

To occupy Palestine and to kill the Palestinians

?

 

[Kirran]

Yes the lands of the Palestinians should be free from the Israeli soldiers, i think it's a fair demand.

Where do you mean, exactly? The West Bank, all of Israel?

 

[Tumah]

The Jews should stay in their lands and the Palestinians in their lands,
the Israeli soldiers should stay away from the Palestinians lands, that's the humanitarian thing that Israel doesn't accept.

Ok. Do you have a method for stopping the Palestinians from building those tunnels into the 'Jewish' land?
And from bringing axes, knives, bombs, guns, missiles and other assorted weapons into the 'Jewish' land?

This method should be able to be enacted without causing an increase in danger the Jews in 'Jewish land'.

 

[FearGod]

The Syrian refugees didn't want to leave Syria, they were forced to by violence. If things become peaceful again, they will mostly go back. Same.

And you want Palestinians to flee from the Israelis violence and to leave their lands to the Israelis.

 

[Godobeyer]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b020b2-7e56-11e5-b575-d8dcfedb4ea1_story.html

http://www.algemeiner.com/2015/10/2...s-demonstrators-mock-executing-orthodox-jews/

Algeria doesn't have Jews - why do you think that is? It certainly used to. Important to note: the 1963 Algerian Nationality Code gave citizenship to Muslims only. So all Jews living in the country weren't counted as Algerians, legally, and so had no rights as citizens. Not surprising they were forced to leave. Also during the '60s, the government drew much heavier taxes from the Jews and seized all of the synagogues except one and converted them into mosques. Again, it is not surprising that the Jews felt they had to leave Algeria.

I understand why there is hate toward Israel in Arab world, which by magic extend to ALL Jews , because they thought that all Jews are criminals , and all Jews are pro-Israel , and all Jews live in Israel.

I am not sure about this issue , but I guess the Jews in Algeria , were pro-France, so they went with France .

Of course there is racism in Israel. There is racism in every country.

I am not talking about racism of people , I am talking about racism and unjustice of the Israeli goverment toward Arabs citizens and Arabs in West Bank

Some reliable sources would be good.

From my childhood , the news about Israel/Palestine , everyday run TV

That's not "some crimes", that's being driven out of the country.

Citizenship is same for Arab or Jews in Moroco , both faced crimes and terrorism.

So surely all other countries would be at war with Israel then?

No , but there is no secret peace.

There's Islamophobia. There's harassment. But I know many Muslims here in the West, and I've studied the issues at play, and they are nowhere even near suffering pogroms, massacres etc as the Jews in the Arab world were. Otherwise they'd be fleeing the countries like the Jews did.

Does the Jews massacred in Arab world ?

Now that the vast majority have fled. Some countries are better than others. But in all cases, their situation is certainly no better than that of Arab citizens of Israel.

The point is that a huge amount of the Jews now living in Israel are there because they or their parents were forced to flee the predominantly-Arab countries they lived in before, which has stirred up prejudice on both sides, rather inflaming the whole thing. If you're at risk of having your home destroyed, or being killed, and have various legal restrictions against you, all on account of being Jewish, then it seems rather likely you're going to want to flee that country to somewhere you can live safely, like Israel.

Israeli goverment which doing racist acts toward Arabs not just Jews .

Palestinian families homeless as Israeli military demolishes West Bank houses
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-israeli-military-demolishes-west-bank-houses

This is not happening toward Jews in Arab world or Iran!

 

[Kirran]

And you want Palestinians to flee from the Israelis violence and to leave their lands to the Israelis.

I want Palestinians who are already refugees, who are already outside of Israel-Palestine and in need of help, to be given help. I want the millions of Palestinians living as second-class citizens in camps and cities in Jordan to be given full rights, given citizenship. Many Palestinian refugees have had children, and those children have grown up, in Jordan, without any of them receiving citizenship or equality.

 

[FearGod]

Where do you mean, exactly? The West Bank, all of Israel?

Of course the west bank.

 

[FearGod]

Ok. Do you have a method for stopping the Palestinians from building those tunnels into the 'Jewish' land?
And from bringing axes, knives, bombs, guns, missiles and other assorted weapons into the 'Jewish' land?

This method should be able to be enacted without causing an increase in danger the Jews in 'Jewish land'.

The soldier was inside the Palestinian lands and not in Israel.