An execution of wounded by Israeli soldier !

[rosends]

And the tunnels and missiles?

arrest them as well, apparently.

 

[Tumah]

I think Egypt already destroyed the tunnels, the missiles are ineffective and is incomparable
to what Israel owns,

I'm not talking about the smuggling tunnels to Egypt. I'm talking about the tunnels to Israel.
And you are saying what? That Israel should just ignore the incoming missiles (whose range has been constantly increasing)?

And what about after the nasect Palestinians state gets its own open borders and ships in more accurate and deadly missiles from their friends?

and i don't know how the tunnels and the missiles are related to the savage
and the inhuman act of the soldier in the west bank which is what this thread is all about.

Isn't it obvious? You post a thread about something Israel does. Then people explain to you the facts. Then you and your friends ignore half the facts and continue to comment about the other half. Then some other repeat the other half of the facts to you again. And again. And again.

 

[Tumah]

No I don't know him , I don't understand perfectly what he said, he spoke Arabic and hebrew

I guess there was a problem about some Jews being in there in that time;so that was his reaction ?

If I recall correctly, is problem was that the Arab MKs are inciting Palestinian violence and that is making Jews afraid to come do business in his neighborhood. He feels that the Arab MKs are making peace harder than easier.

Where ?

From all over the Arab world.

Don't forget the Palestinian refugees please

Tell that to Jordan.

 

[Kirran]

So it's about Israel allow to build towns to Jews , and not allow to Arabs ?

No. It's about you not having all the facts. Because Israel allows Israelis to build towns full stop. This includes Jews, Arabs and other citizens such as Circassians and Sudanese.

Incidentally, you seem to be continuing to ignore the fact that Algeria expelled all its Jews by refusing to give them citizenship.

 

[Aquitaine]

So you have none.

Actually now that I think of it, I remember you proclaiming to be a humanist who doesn't judge via race/religion/nationality etc; I think you created a thread about it. Days later you then started harping on jews (again) to which I even called you out on.

I've known and debated with you long enough to recognize your muslim/jew bias, and I am not digging through nearly 10,500 posts to highlight examples for you to only deny.

And how's your reply in post #132 has anything to do with this topic, also if you have no knowledge
about the history of our region then how you can be fair in any discussion, study and come back
to discuss the Palestinian issue with fairnes

I knew it: you're wanting to fall back on the "historically the land belongs to the palestinians", even though historically that land has changed hands so many times; hell it was inhabited by jews long before Islam was even founded.
Since Islam was spread to that region by and external force, perhaps the land truly belongs to the jews and not the muslims?
Or by "history" are you only including things within the last 100 years or so?

 

[FearGod]

Actually now that I think of it, I remember you proclaiming to be a humanist who doesn't judge via race/religion/nationality etc; I think you created a thread about it. Days later you then started harping on jews (again) to which I even called you out on.

I've known and debated with you long enough to recognize your muslim/jew bias, and I am not digging through nearly 10,500 posts to highlight examples for you to only deny.

Again your words prove nothing, try again.

I knew it: you're wanting to fall back on the "historically the land belongs to the palestinians", even though historically that land has changed hands so many times; hell it was inhabited by jews long before Islam was even founded.
Since Islam was spread to that region by and external force, perhaps the land truly belongs to the jews and not the muslims?
Or by "history" are you only including things within the last 100 years or so?

I didn't mention about the stupid topic of who owned the land before 3000 years, keep it for yourself.

 

[Kirran]

I didn't mention about the stupid topic of who owned the land before 3000 years, keep it for yourself.

Well the issue was who the land belongs to. Does it belong to Palestinians, if the ancestors of the Jewish people were there before them?

 

[FearGod]

Well the issue was who the land belongs to. Does it belong to Palestinians, if the ancestors of the Jewish people were there before them?

It belonged to humans, keep the stupidity on giving the lands according to people's religion and beliefs.

 

[Kirran]

It belonged to humans, keep the stupidity on giving the lands according to people's religion and beliefs.

I agree very much, yes. We should look at the people living there, not at whether they're Palestinian or Israeli.

 

[FearGod]

I'm not talking about the smuggling tunnels to Egypt. I'm talking about the tunnels to Israel.
And you are saying what? That Israel should just ignore the incoming missiles (whose range has been constantly increasing)?

And what about after the nasect Palestinians state gets its own open borders and ships in more accurate and deadly missiles from their friends?

Israel have better missiles from the US and for free, so what's your issue.

Isn't it obvious? You post a thread about something Israel does. Then people explain to you the facts. Then you and your friends ignore half the facts and continue to comment about the other half. Then some other repeat the other half of the facts to you again. And again. And again.

It isn't my thread, so open your mind a little bit except if you're very old in age.
Which facts you're talking about?

 

[Flankerl]

Israel have better missiles from the US and for free, so what's your issue.

So you don't have a problem when rockets are exchanged between Israel and the Palestinians.

Good. I will remind you of that next time you whine about an Israeli airstrike.

 

[Aquitaine]

Again your words prove nothing, try again.

Oh okay, if you want to play that game then fine; I will just say that your claims of being non-judgemental and non-preferential in regards to race/religion/nationality are only your words and prove nothing.

I didn't mention about the stupid topic of who owned the land before 3000 years, keep it for yourself.

Right, instead you mentioned about Saladin who is even less relevant to the issue at hand. Then you got all salty because I failed to see why Saladin was relevant to this topic.

It belonged to humans, keep the stupidity on giving the lands according to people's religion and beliefs.

Isn't that exactly what you're arguement is based on: that the Israeli's are occupying and the Palestinian knife attackers were "defending their land"?

 

[FearGod]

So you don't have a problem when rockets are exchanged between Israel and the Palestinians.

Good. I will remind you of that next time you whine about an Israeli airstrike.

You will ?

 

[FearGod]

Oh okay, if you want to play that game then fine; I will just say that your claims of being non-judgemental and non-preferential in regards to race/religion/nationality are only your words and prove nothing.

Are we playing?

Right, instead you mentioned about Saladin who is even less relevant to the issue at hand. Then you got all salty because I failed to see why Saladin was relevant to this topic.

Saladin fought the aggressors, and he didn't even kill them but he gave them the chance to leave in peace,
that's hard for you to understand.

Isn't that exactly what you're arguement is based on: that the Israeli's are occupying and the Palestinian knife attackers were "defending their land"?

Yes the wrong is with the occupier. People should be free, humans can understand what i'm saying but
you'll never understand my point, so keep playing.

 

[Flankerl]

Yes the valiant fight against the occupier. Which is why no non-Zionist Haredim are hurt and only evil occupiers!


Oh wait.

 

[Aquitaine]

Saladin fought the aggressors, and he didn't even kill them but he gave them the chance to leave in peace,
that's hard for you to understand.

I don't condone them, but weren't the Crusades a comparitively small response to large-scale Muslim imperialism?
Is it not true that Muslim powers had been aggressively expanding and colonising during that time?

Yes the wrong is with the occupier. People should be free, humans can understand what i'm saying but
you'll never understand my point, so keep playing.

Right, so when the Muslim aggressors occupied people's land, the victims should've repelled the Muslim invaders and kept their homelands? Or are we only doing this when the victims are Muslim?

 

[rosends]

And Rosh Ha'Ayin is clearly occupied, right?
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/210240#.VwEqf6QrJnI

 

[Tumah]

Israel have better missiles from the US and for free, so what's your issue.

So you're saying that its OK if Palestinians shoot missiles across the border and kill people, because Israel can kill them back and do it better?

It isn't my thread, so open your mind a little bit except if you're very old in age.
Which facts you're talking about?

Everything we've been talking about basically since you got here.

 

[Flankerl]

I don't condone them, but weren't the Crusades a comparitively small response to large-scale Muslim imperialism?
Is it not true that Muslim powers had been aggressively expanding and colonising during that time?

That's different. Muslims have an inherent right to the Eastern Roman Empire, Persia, Northern Africa, Central Asia, Iberia and France. Oh and obviously Europe as a whole.

If you accept Islam you will see the difference, yes?

 

[Aquitaine]

That's different. Muslims have an inherent right to the Eastern Roman Empire, Persia, Northern Africa, Central Asia, Iberia and France. Oh and obviously Europe as a whole.

If you accept Islam you will see the difference, yes?

This is why part of me finds this whole "historical homeland" arguement to be irrelevant. I am reminded of that animated video "This land is mine".