FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
I'm telling facts, Spain was conquered and persecuted by the Visigoth prior to the Arab liberating Spain from the invaders,
Oh i mentioned Arabs, i'm biased.
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An execution of wounded by Israeli soldier !
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I'm telling facts, Spain was conquered and persecuted by the Visigoth prior to the Arab liberating Spain from the invaders,
Oh i mentioned Arabs, i'm biased.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
No, it's about your beliefs, Jews hate the Romans
I thought Jewish passports.
Yes, there is a degree of discrimination in the granting of planning permits (those houses contravening these permits are demolished) along ethnoreligious lines,and that is bad, definitely. But it isn't entirely some 'anti-Arab' thing.
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Peace+Pro...tion+of+Gaza+settlement+homes+16-Aug-2005.htm
http://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-threaten-hunger-strike-outside-prime-ministers-office/
The houses of Jewish settlers also get destroyed if they break permits.
Again, read what I put before. The Algerian government gave citizenship to only those Algerians who were Muslim. It then proceeded to confiscate the property of the Jews, including seizing their synagogues and converting them into mosques. You don't get much more anti-Semitic than that, short of me dropping the 'H' word again.
No, it's about your beliefs, Jews hate the Romans
I thought Jewish passports.
Seeing as the majority of Arab citizens of Israel prefer to live under Israeli rule than under Palestinian rule, because they appreciate the freedom and prosperity of Israel as compared to Palestine, does that mean Israel was also a "blessing" for the Palestinians?
I don't think so particularly myself, but it would follow on the logic of what you said about Al-Andalus.
Settler homes in some West bank area , that's normal , building towns in West Band is fact .I am talking also about inside Israel.
Many of Arabs homes demolished inside Israel.
How many Muslims in Algeria ?
I checked Algerian law , about recover the nationality , there is no condition about religion.
I checked also that to have Algerian nationality , there is no condition of religion.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Read before making a judgement and equating the criminal Israel to Al-Andalus, call me biased if you wish,
but ti'm telling facts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_Jewish_culture_in_Spain
Yeah, if they build homes that don't have permits. That happens here too. Only fair.
How many Muslims in Algeria, what, now?
You're right, this was according to the 1963 Nationality Code, which was what was in effect upon independence. It was as a result of that that the Jews were denied rights.
The Algerian Nationality Code of 1963, Laws 63-69, Section 34.
Yeah, it's good stuff - the Christians were certainly much crueller to the Jews following their ascension to rule than the Muslims had been.
But most Arab citizens of Israel also prefer to be under Israeli than Palestinian rule so...
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
If you trust the Israeli survey, then i have nothing to say.
No , not fair , and you have no idea what going on there .
I mean Algeria not 100% Muslims it's about 98 Muslims , how 2% of non-Muslim get the Algerian nationality for your opinion ?
That code is changed !!
it's in French
http://www.joradp.dz/TRV/FNat.pdf
Do you trust the Palestinian surveys?
It is fair that if you build a house without planning permission, that house is demolished. This happens pretty much everywhere. In Israel it happens to Jews, to Arabs, to Circassians, and others.
Yes, the code changed, that's from 2007. That's how there are 2% who aren't Muslim. It is good that it has changed.
But by the time it was changed, the Jews had already all been kicked out 44 years ago, it was too late. They'd already had all their rights revoked and had to leave, they'd already had all their property confiscated, they'd already had their synagogues seized and turned into mosques.
If I make a personal policy to hit you in the face every time I see you, you will stop wanting to be my friend. If, after you've stopped being my friend, I change this policy, it doesn't matter. The damage is already done, and it's my fault you have stopped being my friend.
You seem very eager to ignore all evidence that says an Arab country has ever done anything bad to Jews, while jumping on whatever you can to show how Jews in Israel are so terrible to Arabs. I expect this is a result of the highly one-sided media to which you've been exposed as an Arabic-speaker.
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Hahahahahahaha
Here @Nietzsche have a laugh.
Been there, mentioned that.
I even asked him to go to the local library to confirm it. Guess the result.
It's actually worse.
Imagine the most horrible thing you can do to a group of people. Now let's say this happens in an Arab country. Arabs will think its bad BUT if something happens in Israel that is not as bad it will still be seen as incredibly worse because its Israel.
You can not argue against it because Israel is the worst thing for them.
In the same logic they say terrorism is bad, but if terrorism hits Israel its not as bad, in fact its good.
This they will couple with the usual "Arabs don't hate Jews, we only hate Zionists" which is complete bogus.
You can not win this argument Kirran.
Something keeps pushing me onwards
Godobeyer has actually been fairly reasonable on some things before, and changed his views based on evidence. Some part of me still hopes he'll be reasonable here.
But hey, even I'm reaching a limit - if he keeps denying the Algerian expulsion of the Jews, then he's beyond reason, and I'll bail out.
Were you always as sarcastic as you are now, or is this what happens to you after years of these arguments?
Flankerl
Well-Known Member
Were you always as sarcastic as you are now, or is this what happens to you after years of these arguments?
It only gets worse.
The sarcasm? Or the arguments?
Tumah
Veteran Member
Why do you see it as boss and slave just because one has weapons and the other doesn't? Why not see it as the aggressor and the defender. With Israel's existence at stake from Islamist ideology, it needs weapons. Not against Palestinians per se, but against Hamas, Fatah/Al-Aqsa, PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hizbullah, SIS, Iran, etc.
Palestinians on the other hand, in their own country who do they need to protect against? The only thing that will happen with the weapons, is they will shoot it at Israel.
You have 10 pages worth of posts concerning Jews, including a thread, started by you, entitled "What's the difference between a Jew, an Israeli and a Zionist."
The response here would be against the Israeli authorities which are increasingly marginalising them by pushing them off their lands and restricting their movement.
Personally, I think that violence and radicalism on the part of the Palestinians will only make things worse for them here, but that is likely the response.
FearGod
Freedom Of Mind
Which survey?
Tumah
Veteran Member
I think the question was in a hypothetical two-state situation. At least when that thread of the conversation originally started. So we're already talking about after that's not an issue.