An execution of wounded by Israeli soldier !

[Kirran]

Which survey?

Just in general. Do you trust Palestinian surveys?

Personally, I trust surveys based on the organisation running them, not based on which country they are from. And I take all with a pinch of salt, and compare them to get a broader picture.

I think the question was in a hypothetical two-state situation. At least when that thread of the conversation originally started. So we're already talking about after that's not an issue.

Ah, I do apologise.

 

[FearGod]

Hahahahahahaha.

Laughing without a reason, be a little bit a serious person than making yourself looks as a stupid child.

 

[Kirran]

Laughing without a reason, be a little bit a serious person than making yourself looks as a stupid child.

Hey! I am known to laugh on occasion, and I am not a stupid child. I am 21 years old now, and am therefore venerable and wise.

 

[FearGod]

Why do you see it as boss and slave just because one has weapons and the other doesn't? Why not see it as the aggressor and the defender. With Israel's existence at stake from Islamist ideology, it needs weapons. Not against Palestinians per se, but against Hamas, Fatah/Al-Aqsa, PLO, Islamic Jihad, Hizbullah, SIS, Iran, etc.
Palestinians on the other hand, in their own country who do they need to protect against? The only thing that will happen with the weapons, is they will shoot it at Israel.

Hamas, Iran, Syria, Russia and each and every country will say the same, we want to defend our country.
How Palestine is different than the others in this world, all countries around Israel have armies and weapons.

You have 10 pages worth of posts concerning Jews, including a thread, started by you, entitled "What's the difference between a Jew, an Israeli and a Zionist."

What's the problem with such a thread asking about the difference between the 3 words?
I didn't get your point, how i'm biased if asking such kind of question?

 

[FearGod]

Hey! I am known to laugh on occasion, and I am not a stupid child. I am 21 years old now, and am therefore venerable and wise.

I ain't sure you're.

 

[FearGod]

Just in general. Do you trust Palestinian surveys?

Personally, I trust surveys based on the organisation running them, not based on which country they are from. And I take all with a pinch of salt, and compare them to get a broader picture.

Depending on the results of the survey, to be honest.
Actually i don't trust the survey if not making sense.



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[Nietzsche]

Hahahahahahaha

Here @Nietzsche have a laugh.

You're a good person. For the chuckle, I'll handle this.

I'm telling facts, Spain was conquered and persecuted by the Visigoth prior to the Arab liberating Spain from the invaders,
Oh i mentioned Arabs, i'm biased.

This is an extremely simplified explanation but it'll work for this;

Visigothic Iberia is no different in concept than the Berber Iberia that it would come into conflict with. Both were "conquered" by population movements rather than "invasions" in the sense we'd appreciate today. Not really a directed central power saying "I wanna take that" but "hey, the grass is a bit greener over here".

 

[Flankerl]

The sarcasm? Or the arguments?

Everything. Forever. In eternity.


Yes I am that positive.

 

[Kirran]

I ain't sure you're.

Good thing I was being sarcastic, huh?

Depending on the results of the survey, to be honest.
Actually i don't trust the survey if not making sense.

FearGod, that is a bit unreasonable. You judge whether or not a source is reliable based on what the results are?

So you have an idea what a situation is. All evidence which confirms this idea is accepted. All that opposes it is rejected. Regardless of source. This means all evidence put to you is useless, because you will only accept that which fits your pre-established view.

 

[FearGod]

FearGod, that is a bit unreasonable. You judge whether or not a source is reliable based on what the results are?

So you have an idea what a situation is. All evidence which confirms this idea is accepted. All that opposes it is rejected. Regardless of source. This means all evidence put to you is useless, because you will only accept that which fits your pre-established view.

A survey done by the Syrian government says that most Syrians want Bashar Al-Asad,
should i believe it? why that big number of refugees?

 

[Godobeyer]

It is fair that if you build a house without planning permission, that house is demolished. This happens pretty much everywhere. In Israel it happens to Jews, to Arabs, to Circassians, and others.

Does inside Israel it's happened to demolish a family house of Jews, I guess no.

Yes, the code changed, that's from 2007. That's how there are 2% who aren't Muslim. It is good that it has changed.

Since when you know it's changed from 2007 ?

But by the time it was changed, the Jews had already all been kicked out 44 years ago, it was too late. They'd already had all their rights revoked and had to leave, they'd already had all their property confiscated, they'd already had their synagogues seized and turned into mosques.

I never heard that Jews kicked out from Algeria .

Where is the problem to seized synogogues and convert it to mosque ?

If I make a personal policy to hit you in the face every time I see you, you will stop wanting to be my friend. If, after you've stopped being my friend, I change this policy, it doesn't matter. The damage is already done, and it's my fault you have stopped being my friend.

Everyone could make a mistake , the problem is when someone is made and making mistakes for long time , saw it normal because he is more powerful, or he had allies support his mistakes.

You seem very eager to ignore all evidence that says an Arab country has ever done anything bad to Jews, while jumping on whatever you can to show how Jews in Israel are so terrible to Arabs. I expect this is a result of the highly one-sided media to which you've been exposed as an Arabic-speaker.

What Arab country had done bad to Jews ,exactly as some Jews done to Arabs now ?

As I suppose it's YES , it's like a drop in ocean .

 

[FearGod]

Now back to the OP.

Are you with the soldier killing the wounded civilian without a court?
Is that an act of a civilized nation to execute without judgement?

 

[Kirran]

A survey done by the Syrian government says that most Syrians want Bashar Al-Asad,
should i believe it? why that big number of refugees?

No reason you should. But you shouldn't just accept evidence which fits preconceptions.

Does inside Israel it's happened to demolish a family house of Jews, I guess no.

It's not about whether you're a Jew or an Arab. It's about planning permission.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/172683#.VwGR6KQrLIU

Since when you know it's changed from 2007 ?

It said on the file you linked to that it was from 2007.

I never heard that Jews kicked out from Algeria .

The fact that you have never heard about it speaks more to your ignorance than to whether it happened.

Where is the problem to seized synogogues and convert it to mosque ?

If you genuinely are asking this, then there is no sense in continued discussion.

If the government of Israel seized all the mosques and turned them into synagogues, how would you feel>

What Arab country had done bad to Jews ,exactly as some Jews done to Arabs now ?

As I suppose it's YES , it's like a drop in ocean .

Every Arab country.

Algeria gave them no rights and expelled them. Libya also expelled them. Yemen and Iraq massacred them. They had it far worse than Arabs in Israel do.

But Arab media wouldn't tell you that, huh?

 

[Aquitaine]

I'm telling facts, Spain was conquered and persecuted by the Visigoth prior to the Arab liberating Spain from the invaders,
Oh i mentioned Arabs, i'm biased.

Muslim imperialism is "liberating"? There's your bias again.
You really can't criticize anything muslims do or have done, can you?

 

[FearGod]

Muslim imperialism is "liberating"? There's your bias again.
You really can't criticize anything muslims do or have done, can you?

Now back to the OP.

Are you with the soldier killing the wounded civilian without a court?
Is that an act of a civilized nation to execute without judgement?

 

[Aquitaine]

Now back to the OP.

Are you with the soldier killing the wounded civilian without a court?
Is that an act of a civilized nation to execute without judgement?

I guess that's a "yes" then.

Regarding the shooting, I have already expressed my "incredibly stupid" opinion that the soldier's concerns about a suicide bomb under a thick jacket were reasonable, given that the Paelstinians' 3 main weapons of choice are rockets, knives and suicide bombs.

Don't wanna get killed? Don't start attacking a soldier. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[FearGod]

I guess that's a "yes" then.

Regarding the shooting, I have already expressed my "incredibly stupid" opinion that the soldier's concerns about a suicide bomb under a thick jacket were reasonable, given that the Paelstinians' 3 main weapons of choice are rockets, knives and suicide bombs.

Don't wanna get killed? Don't start attacking a soldier. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Yes incredibly stupid opinion and even a dirty one, the soldier shot him in a cold blood, no signs of fear from a suicide
bomb at the time of shooting.

I feel sorry indeed that you're an educated person and i'm wasting time with you and with the others.

For you we can judge without proper investigation and just kill innocent people, don't blame the terrorists then.

 

[Kirran]

Yes incredibly stupid opinion and even a dirty one, the soldier shot him in a cold blood, no signs of fear from a suicide
bomb at the time of shooting.

I feel sorry indeed that you're an educated person and i'm wasting time with you and with the others.

For you we can judge without proper investigation and just kill innocent people, don't blame the terrorists then.

If someone disagrees with you, are they incredibly stupid automatically?

 

[Kirran]

One of the biggest things causing suffering to the Palestinian people is actually the corruption of theit leadership.

The GDP of Palestine is around $10 billion. They receive about $2 billion in Aid every year. But their infrastructure shows no particular signs of improvement, there's no real sign there they're actually using that money to help people. In particular, Mahmoud Abbas' salary alone is 1% of the Palestinian GDP!

So of course it's in the best interests of this corrupt elite to keep stirring up conflict by encouraging terrorism and refusing peace settlements while blaming all problems on Israel, which is what we've seen.

On both sides, of course, there are issues with corruption of the leadership. But the Palestinians are suffering rather more than the Israelis.

 

[Godobeyer]

It's not about whether you're a Jew or an Arab. It's about planning permission.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/172683#.VwGR6KQrLIU

Israeli source (to support their claim) !!!

This is neutral one :
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=51826#.VwJP_pyLRxA

It said on the file you linked to that it was from 2007.

Ok

The fact that you have never heard about it speaks more to your ignorance than to whether it happened.

Your evidence that Algeria kicked out the Jews ?

If you genuinely are asking this, then there is no sense in continued discussion.

If the government of Israel seized all the mosques and turned them into synagogues, how would you feel>

Then yes , where is problem that Synagogues turned to mosque , or mosque turned to synagogues or church or to museum ?
II feel it's normal ,since there is no worshipers.
but there are , that oppression against minority .
I think if the Jews decide to recover their Algerian nationality , they have the right to recover their synagogues too.

Every Arab country.

Algeria gave them no rights and expelled them. Libya also expelled them. Yemen and Iraq massacred them. They had it far worse than Arabs in Israel do.

But Arab media wouldn't tell you that, huh?

Please give me an evidence that Algeria expelled the Jews , and Libya
is really there massacres in Yemen and Iraq ?


How about NOW ,the Jews whom lived in Tunisia and Moroco and Iran ?