An execution of wounded by Israeli soldier !

[FearGod]

I don't condone them, but weren't the Crusades a comparitively small response to large-scale Muslim imperialism?
Is it not true that Muslim powers had been aggressively expanding and colonising during that time?

Muslims expelled Romans from the region, the Romans were the occupiers before Islam was even known.

Right, so when the Muslim aggressors occupied people's land, the victims should've repelled the Muslim invaders and kept their homelands? Or are we only doing this when the victims are Muslim?

Muslim occupying whom ? if Muslims attacked Spain as of today then i won't agree, but back in the
history Muslims were a blessing to Spain and to Europe.

 

[Aquitaine]

Muslims expelled Romans from the region, the Romans were the occupiers before Islam was even known.



Muslim occupying whom ? if Muslims attacked Spain as of today then i won't agree, but back in the
history Muslims were a blessing to Spain and to Europe.

Your response here highlights your complete and utter bias: you are perfectly happy with imperialist colonisation . . . so long as the oppressors and colonists were muslim.
Just can't bring yourself to criticize a fellow muslim, can you?

 

[FearGod]

So you're saying that its OK if Palestinians shoot missiles across the border and kill people, because Israel can kill them back and do it better?

No, my point is why Israel can have weapons and not the Palestinians as well,
Why it should be one sided, the boss and the slave.

Everything we've been talking about basically since you got here.

Aha, my threads are concerned about how awful the Jews are.
Please which threads of mine that were concerned about the Jews?

 

[FearGod]

Your response here highlights your complete and utter bias: you are perfectly happy with imperialist colonisation . . . so long as the oppressors and colonists were muslim.
Just can't bring yourself to criticize a fellow muslim, can you?

I said i won't agree if Muslims occupied Spain as of today, how i'm biased then?

 

[FearGod]

That's different. Muslims have an inherent right to the Eastern Roman Empire, Persia, Northern Africa, Central Asia, Iberia and France. Oh and obviously Europe as a whole.

If you accept Islam you will see the difference, yes?

Read the history and find out how the Romans slaved the Jews that you were waiting for your saver.

 

[Aquitaine]

Read the history and find out how the Romans slaved the Jews that you were waiting for your saver.

Meanwhile wasn't the Ottoman Empire engaging in slavery for almost its entire duration?

 

[Aquitaine]

I said i won't agree if Muslims occupied Spain as of today, how i'm biased then?

Yet you're happy with the historical muslim imperialism.

 

[FearGod]

Meanwhile wasn't the Ottoman Empire engaging in slavery for almost its entire duration?

Did i agree with it? 2 wrongs don't make a right.

 

[FearGod]

Yet you're happy with the historical muslim imperialism.

Again and again and again, you're speaking and reflecting yourself and not me.

 

[Flankerl]

Read the history and find out how the Romans slaved the Jews that you were waiting for your saver.

And then the Muslims stole our holy places.

You obviously don't have a problem with that.

 

[FearGod]

And then the Muslims stole our holy places.

You obviously don't have a problem with that.

Again about Judaism and religion.

 

[Shad]

Again about Judaism and religion.

You brought up the point....

 

[FearGod]

You brought up the point....

I was talking about the Romans slaving the people living in the region at that time, not
about Islam, Christianity or Judaism.

Read post #279 to see who brought it up.

 

[Aquitaine]

Did i agree with it? 2 wrongs don't make a right.

You implied it, by referring to Islamic conquerors as a "blessing".

Again and again and again, you're speaking and reflecting yourself and not me.

See above.

 

[Shad]

I was talking about the Romans slaving the people living in the region at that time, not
about Islam, Christianity or Judaism.

Read post #279 to see who brought it up.

Jews with that context was not a secular position but one tied to a religion. It also savior not saver and is again tied to a religion not a secular view point. Nor were all Jews slaves. Nor can you claim a moral high ground regarding slavery when it was practiced by Islam for centuries.

 

[Flankerl]

Again about Judaism and religion.

lol
Yes Muslims(adherents of a Religion) saved us from the East Romans.
In return they stole our holy sites.

That is a fact.

If they were true saviours they wouldn't have done that.

 

[FearGod]

lol
Yes Muslims(adherents of a Religion) saved us from the East Romans.
In return they stole our holy sites.

That is a fact.

If they were true saviours they wouldn't have done that.

According to your beliefs that the savior will free you from the Romans in which
you think that Jesus has failed and hence wasn't the true messiah.

Back thousands years ago, i don't know what passports people used to use in Palestine.

 

[Flankerl]

According to your beliefs that the savior will free you from the Romans in which
you think that Jesus has failed and hence wasn't the true messiah.

Has absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic Conquests.

Back thousands years ago, i don't know what passports people used to use in Palestine.

Of course you don't.

 

[Godobeyer]

No. It's about you not having all the facts. Because Israel allows Israelis to build towns full stop. This includes Jews, Arabs and other citizens such as Circassians and Sudanese.

Incidentally, you seem to be continuing to ignore the fact that Algeria expelled all its Jews by refusing to give them citizenship.

Israel building homes to Jews and demolishing of Arabs , thats reported .
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/07/israel-demolish-arab-buildings-west-bank-un-palestinian

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_demolition_in_the_Israeli–Palestinian_conflict



I don't know about refusing my country to give citizenship to Jews !!
Did Jews asked for it ?

 

[Godobeyer]

If I recall correctly, is problem was that the Arab MKs are inciting Palestinian violence and that is making Jews afraid to come do business in his neighborhood. He feels that the Arab MKs are making peace harder than easier.

It's like an Arab journalist making a interview in Jewish neighborhood .

From all over the Arab world.

That's not true of in all cases, Jews were decide to immigrate to Israel , and Israel take the habit to call all Jews of world to immgrate to Israel.

Tell that to Jordan.

Why tell to Jordan , Why not Israel ? ah because they are Palestinians refugees "Arabs" , if they were "Jews" !
If they were "Jews" you would certainlly said " tell that to Israel" ?
I believe they choose to immgrate to Israel (NOT FORCED), so they lost their nationality.